Author Topic: US Elections 2008 (Read 40930 times)

Asmodai · « **on:** January 09, 2008, 10:30:41 PM »

As a note, politics can be heated. Remember the forum rules when you post. No personal attacks or baiting.

So, what are peoples predictions for the primaries and the election?

On the Democratic side, I could see either Hillary or Obama winning. I'd be happy either way, although I'm leaning more towards Hillary since she strikes me as being more pragmatic.

The Republican race is very muddy. I'm a social liberal, so I don't like Huckabee much and I don't trust Romney. I'm rooting for McCain since that way I'd be happy whoever won the general election.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #1 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:04:11 PM »

Mike Gravel '08
[youtube=425,350]0rZdAB4V_j8[/youtube]

riyo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:52:08 PM »

^haha I saw that on "Best Year Ever"

Anyways,
As far as democrats go, I've heard all over the news that it's neck-and-neck between with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. I think each one gains a little bit a headway every now and then, but it still remains tied overall.
As far as republicans go, I have no idea what's going on.

Honestly, in general, I barely know any candidates (republican or democrat's) stance on anything.

ctz · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2008, 11:55:14 PM »

Personally I'm cheering for Obama. I'm afraid that Clinton is too hated to win against republicans, whoever their candidate is going to be.

Sexykago · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2008, 01:13:00 AM »

As someone who wants the Clinton team back in office again, I'm really worried that crying thing is gonna have a really bad effect on her chances to win.

I agree most with Dennis, but he doesn't really stand a chance, so I'm rooting for Hillary.

Obama might be a good president, but I've never seen him in action, I have on the other hand seen Bill Clinton in action. And he made a great president, say what you will about his personal life, but he was a great president. And him and Hillary worked worked as a team.

SomethingWild · « **Reply #5 on:** January 10, 2008, 09:10:35 AM »

I really thought Bill Clinton was a good president, but I don't like Hillary. To me, she comes across as wanting to write history by being the first woman president. And the little tear thing she did a couple of days ago came across as an act.

I'm rooting for Obama.

Tuffty · « **Reply #6 on:** January 10, 2008, 01:17:08 PM »

As someone speaking from outside the US, I would like either Hilary or Barack as the next President, slightly more in favour of Barack. He comes across very well whenever I see him and is fairly charismatic. Although his lack of experience might go against him, but even if Hilary was elected as the Democratic candidate I wouldn't mind, she looks like a good leader to have a s well. I personally thought the term 'emotional breakdown' to describe her recent slip up in an interview was a bit strong. It was a tear and a quiver in her voice, she wasn't making a puddle of tears on the ground beneath her or anything.

Still it's quite interesting this. Cynics say it's all fabricated nonsense by politicians to try and convince people to vote, one went so far today as to say that the state of Iowa shouldn't even be allowed to vote for the leader of the world's most powerful nation, as they're a state of inbred hillbillies, or that Barack and Hilary should give up their claim of 'change' because they already have a black, female politician in Condolezza Rice that's currently fucking America up. Bit strong if you ask me. But at this stage, nobody knows who's going to be the frontrunner for each candidate and it makes it an exciting Presidential race for some time.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #7 on:** January 10, 2008, 01:35:19 PM »

ctz · « **Reply #8 on:** January 10, 2008, 08:06:52 PM »

So Ron Paul is the candidate of all conspiracy theorists?

Asmodai · « **Reply #9 on:** January 10, 2008, 08:43:48 PM »

Pretty much. Plus fringe libertarians.

Asmodai · « **Reply #10 on:** January 15, 2008, 02:00:58 PM »

Michigan's primary is today.

Personally, I think Michigan deserves kudos for having the balls to stand up to the national party organizations and schedule their primary early enough that it gets tons of attention and all the (Republican) candidates promising to do stuff for Michigan's economy once elected.

Likewise, this gives me a positive feeling about Hillary. The fact that she was willing to stand up for Michigan against the Democratic apparatus gives me a lot of confidence that she won't just be a mouth-piece for Soros/MoveOn when she's in the Oval Office.

I live close enough to Detroit that I get their radio stations and TV. I think it's pretty clear that Michigan is hurting because its needs have been largely ignored in the drive towards free trade. Meanwhile Iowa has been high on ethanol subsidies for decades. I can certainly understand their point and wanting to get into the pandering action. It also points to the need to reform the current system and possible move towards a national primary day. If there's a national primary day and a majority of the electoral college passes popular vote laws than a lot of the distortions and market failures caused by the current system would go away.

In terms of predictions, I expect Hillary to dominate over Gravel and Kucinich on the Democratic side (which is irrelevant since no delegates are at stake).

I expect McCain to get a narrow victory over Romney for the Republicans, but mostly since Democrats and Independents will be voting in the Republican primary. This will probably result in both sides claiming victory.

xerony · « **Reply #11 on:** January 15, 2008, 08:59:20 PM »

The Democratic side should win the election. But I can't vote for it lol

I hope Obama will be most popular for this side. America has had only white presidents...
But in some states Hillary seems to be more popular. And she could maybe become the first female president of the states.
I'm curious about the outcome of this election. Which side will win and how does this affect the rest of the world
Will America finally sign the Kyoto protocol? Or what else should be a mayor step for the president to take first? Are they going to quit the war in Iraq?

chokkan 2 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 15, 2008, 09:36:49 PM »

I don't care who win ... but ......

I hate to say this .....

I'll vote only for Democrats ............

....... Republicans ... Dai Kirai ........

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2008, 12:06:22 AM »

It looks like Giuliani has the zombie vote.

Asmodai · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2008, 03:11:53 AM »

That picture pretty much sums up Florida in a lot of ways.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #15 on:** January 28, 2008, 12:49:55 AM »

Daisuki Daiiyo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 28, 2008, 02:05:13 AM »

As much as I'd love for either Obama or Clinton to be the next president, since I like them both considerably, and will go out and vote for them when the time comes, I get the feeling that if either of them gets the nomination that we aren't gonna win, and we're going to end up with another Republican president.

Let's face it, there are still alot of ignorant people out there who, sadly, will refuse to vote for Hil just because she's a woman, and Obama just because he's black. And then alot of inbetween people that just don't vote at all. Edwards seems like he'd be the only one with a shot at winning. :/

Asmodai · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2008, 01:42:57 PM »

I dunno. Edwards lost once already when he ran with Kerry. I think the number of people that will vote just because it's the first woman/minority candidate will outweigh those that don't vote for that reason.

Foxy Brown · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2008, 08:32:09 AM »

And the stick figure nerd joke vote goes to Obama.

Asmodai · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2008, 05:06:24 PM »

It's a nicely written opinion though.

Only 5 days till Super Tuesday!

(I'll be voting early once I get home on Saturday, not that New York is going to be competitive anyway.)