Official Wrestling Thread "Finally ... a wrestling thread HAS COME BACK TO JPH!P!!!"

[Lemon]

Some releases announced at WWE.com

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/releases

WWE has decided not to proceed with any renegotiations with Bubba and D-Von Dudley. We wish both Bubba and D-Von the best in all future endeavors.

Also, World Wrestling Entertainment has come to agreements on the release of the following Superstars. WWE would like to wish them the best in their future endeavors.

Joy Giovanni
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

Dudleys released? Most surprising move obviously. Hahaha take that Mark Jindrak!

[Kenji]

Also, Lesnar's gonna meet with the WWE tomorrow. They might re-sign him, WOOOOO!

I'm pretty unhappy about the Maven and Matt Morgan releases, though.

[TheQuickening]

Also, Lesnar's gonna meet with the WWE tomorrow. They might re-sign him, WOOOOO!

They'll likely have to settle their respective lawsuits against each other, first.  I'm willing to bet that THAT is what this meeting is about.  Once these lawsuits have been settled, THEN they MIGHT re-hire him.  **bastard needs the work, after all***


And well, now we know why Steven Richards got "traded" to SmackDown. Behold!!! It's the return of the bWo...the BLUE WORLD ORDER!!!      


What I'm wondering now is, why bother with involving Mark Jindrak and Kenzo Suzuki in the "trade" if they were just going to release them?

[Thimas X]

http://www.usanetwork.com/sports/wwe/

oh shit! The memories! Back when WWF was on USA I never missed an episode. Spike is so ghetto.

[Lemon]

I just read Rhyno will be debuting on TNA's No Surrender PPV. w00t!

[LoveHaruru]

It's funny, because the only reason I EVER watched USA was because of WWF/E.  Ever since they left USA, my cable provider could have gotten rid of the network, and I wouldn't know.  Same is about to happen with Spike, I guess.

[Kurokaze]

damn. those are some pretty big drops.
especially the three divas!
and haas, spike and kidman.
why the heck is marty jennety still taking a paycheck?
should've thrown him through one more window :/

[Kenji]

It seems the Lesnar lawsuit is already settled, and they kept his re-hiring "under the table" to build up the suspense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if I see him on RAW or Smackdown this wek.

[TheQuickening]

It seems the Lesnar lawsuit is already settled, and they kept his re-hiring "under the table" to build up the suspense. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if I see him on RAW or Smackdown this wek.

Well...ok, I guess.         Still, watch and listen for audiences to totally rag on him for leaving in the first place and chanting shit like "you sold out" and the like.

[Kenji]

I was always a huge Lesnar fan, even before he left. I know I'll be chanting his name.

A heel character would obviously work best if he were to return.

[TheQuickening]

I'd say so.  It'll take awhile for him to get back over with the fans enough to be a face again.  Come to think of it, I wonder if they'll put him back on SD or move him to RAW?

[LoveHaruru]

I think I heard that Lesnar was going straight to Smackdown.

If so, it's going to be Lesnar vs. Batista by the end of the year, if not earlier.  Good for Lesnar, bad for guys like JBL and Captain Charisma, particularly the ladder, who I expected to see in the main event picture SOON.

That said, I hope Jericho kicks the shit out of John Cena, but I have a feeling Cena will be put over at Summerslam.  All of Cena's singles matches recently (except his last one with JBL) have been squash matches, so I almost wouldn't be surprised if Jericho got beat quick.

BTW....


HARDY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

[Lemon]

OMG was that a storyline or not?!

Me say no.

[LoveHaruru]

OMG was that a storyline or not?!

Me say no.

Eh, it might not have been a storyline at first, but you know Vince...he knew that there was money to be made with that situation, and in the end, I think they knew that too.

Now all I need to know is, when is Hardy officially back?  Looks like they're trying to move Kane (back) to Snitsky to set up Hardy/Edge, but how long will they take to build up their match for the casual viewer and not just us internet geeks.

[Lemon]

Interesting, Matt was not mentioned at all in the RAW results at WWE.com. All they mentioned was that Kane won by DQ. o_O And also Matt mentioned ROH. Since when did WWE ever mention ROH in it's storylines? This is confusing me so much. >_<

[Kenji]

The whole thing with Matt Hardy was a worked shoot. They tried to make it look like a shoot with Hardy jumping Edge out of nowhere, promoting ROH, using Edge's real name, etc. But honestly, there's no way in hell that Hardy could have entered the arena. Security is tight as hell, and he probably would have been arrested right away after he jumped Edge the first time. Plus, Edge playing that tape earlier in the night kind of foreshadowed things. WWE is continuing to make it look like a shoot by not mentioning the incident at all on their site. I think Hardy might have been re-hired a couple weeks back, and the WWE tried to make it look like he was leaving for a new angle.

I checked Hardy's message board, and todays incident is causing quite a commotion. Screw the fans that are turning on Matt 'cause he was being dishonest. It was a work, people...get over yourselves. I for one was surprised as hell to see him tonight, and I marked out big time.

Man, RAW has way too many "shows" now. Carlito's Cabana, The Highlight Reel, AND Piper's Pit? Jesus, I still think Jericho should have went to Smackdown. And although I like Lesnar, I'll be pissed if they make him feud with Batista right away. Christian needs to be champ, dammit!

[Kid Kash]

And also Matt mentioned ROH. Since when did WWE ever mention ROH in it's storylines? This is confusing me so much. >_<

Well, remember back in 97' when ECW invaded Raw is war?
Seems like the WWE is looking at ROH the same way the looked at ECW back then, plus they've recently acquired ROH champ  .... C.M Punk.
Maybe that has something to do with it.

or Vince is just letting Matt plug his match at ROH, who knows?


BTW, the whole Hardy incident on Raw yesterday was brilliant, IMO.
And so was that Angle invitational match with Matt Striker.

[LoveHaruru]

^ That's right..Vince has ties to ROH in the same way he did with ECW.  If Matt said "come see me at TNA!!!!", that's when I'll know security must have been shitty that night, but like Kenji said, security is always tight there.  They don't even let fans carry in certain signs anymore, so Matt would have been arrested at the door if this weren't a work.


As for those Matt fans complaining, they're all nuts.  Why are they even complaining?  Lita/Amy didn't cheat on them, so if Matt is over it, then they should be over it too.

[Kenji]

Looks like Matt is continuing to make last night's incident look like a shoot:

If you guys are ready for a ride, jump the f*ck on. Well, I promised you all fireworks, so I hope I didn't disappoint. As of July 11th, 2005, my personal Independence Day, the Movement has begun-- and the Movement's purpose is two-fold. Purpose one--To never let anyone control what Matt Hardy says and does and thinks. Purpose two--To make Adam Copeland, Amy Dumas, and the WWE regret what they did to me, what they did to us. It's time for Matt Hardy to stand up for all the MFer's that have been chanting "We Want Matt", and "You Screwed Matt". Although you may not know this--you guys, the MFers, started the Movement months ago. I can now finally join the Movement because I am no longer controlled by the WWE. The McMahons, the Johnny Aces, and all of the WWE management can kiss my @$$. I did what I did tonight because for me to live with myself, Adam "Feces" Copeland must pay. I'm not going to let the WWE forget that they f*cked up when they released me instead of that scumbag home-wrecker. And Amy Dumas, you know what's it's like to have me as your closest ally--but you're gonna hate to see what it's like to have me as your worst enemy b*tch. Even though I didn't slash your tires FCF, slashed tires are going to be the least of your problems--Bank on it. A little message to the whore, the feces, and the horsesh*t "family" that is the WWE--Matt Hardy is like cancer, I don't go away and you won't find a cure. I thank EVERYONE that has supported me through thick and thin--I promise I will always be there for my MFers. I love you guys--and as I always say, without you, there is no me. I am going to turn a hugely negative situation into something that will benefit us. If you don't want to be able to predict what happens next, you're all in for a treat.

P.S. - If you're thinking about pressing charges Vince, I got a couple bucks, I'll fight it. Besides, I think I might have some pixs and video from a camera phone that shows your officers Rodney Kinging my @$$. My wrist is cut from the handcuffs, and I would suggest that there was a little unnecessary roughness involved in kicking me out of your building.

P.S.S. - And don't forget to catch Matt Hardy in action this Friday in Indiana, PA, this Saturday in Woodbridge, CT, and you never know where I'll show up on Sunday. And The Matt Hardy Show is so on...

Matt "F*cking" Hardy

Yeah, there's no way in hell that Matt could have talked on the mic for that long if it was a shoot. The security guards would have jumped his ass even before he tried to spit out his first sentence.

BTW, WWE.com posted an article today about Matt, which further proves that it's all a work.

[Lemon]

Yeah as soon as I saw WWE.com posting Matt's article, that made me confirm it was a work. Although I was just thinking about how this incident came to be:

Vince: "Matt, I want you to attack Adam as if you hate him."

Matt: "But... I really hate him?"

Vince: "That's the point."

Being able to attack Edge while getting paid to do it. Huzzah!