[11/08] 「 Aruiteru 」 MORNING MUSUME 31st single

[Koolmon93]

I'm telling you! Reptitive songs get high on the charts! And Nananas = #1

[Linus]

I posted the Music Fighter and Pop Jam perfs on this very thread, looking for the Utaban one

EDIT: I have the Music Station perf, will that do while I get the Utaban one? http://www.sendspace.com/file/924uq9
Are you sure it was Utaban and not Music Station?

I know you posted them. I said the tracker just for mirrors lol
And yeah, Utaban = my fault. It's Music Station ^^ I tiped to fast... lol

I'm telling you! Reptitive songs get high on the charts! And Nananas = #1

That's right. Spain won the Eurovision (time ago) with a song that was 50% of La La La La :p

[reyfer]

I'm telling you! Reptitive songs get high on the charts! And Nananas = #1

Let's not forget an obscure song called "Hey Jude" by some little unknown band called "The Beatles"

[Fracture]

I agree, but being not so popular as before, and having a negative image (and that's what I got from Fracture's post) are two different things.

And there is a difference between being "uncool" as Blu-Cherri put it, and being "not so popular as before". They don't have a positive image, it's not just a lack of popularity.  Many people think of MM as a group that appeals mainly to perverts and associate all fans with the hardcore wota crowd.  An unfair stereotype, but that doesn't change the fact that it exists.

I'm only taking issue with the statement that being surprised about the single's success is the same as "putting MM down."  It's undrstandable that people are surprised by this.  There is a reason that their recent releases haven't sold well, and I would like to see them break the trend as much as anyone.

[DroolBoy]

I have a feeling that people don't see it as 'being surprised'..

I see "What the hell? This isn't supposed to be no.1 >> Sad."

[reyfer]

Yes, my comment about "putting down" MM was not directed at you, Fracture, but rather at those people that are not surprised, but rather pissed off because in their minds this song should not have been number 1.

What I asked you was about the "positive image" phrase, because sometimes we on the outside don't get the full picture, just snippets of what the people giving us the info believe in. A little example: ask an african-american, a latino and a white guy about the musical movement in USA, and you'll see what I'm talking about. You're right in believing the info you get is correct, maybe you have good info sources, it's just that I'm old enough to know that things are not always as some people tell us they are.

And projecting the behavior of a certain type of fan onto the group is wrong, the ones with the negative image are THOSE FANS, not the group, at least that's how I see it. Another example: is soccer seen as something not very good, just because some hooligans destroy everything they see and physically harm other people when their team looses? No, the negative image is on those fans, and so should be here.

Sorry about this long rant, I really wanted to make things clear, and sometimes I get carried away. Fracture: peace  none of this was personal, just that lately I have been seeing too many negative comments, and wanted to know if they have a solid base or not

[Fracture]

Fracture: peace  none of this was personal, just that lately I have been seeing too many negative comments, and wanted to know if they have a solid base or not

No need to explain, there's nothing wrong at all with defending your point of view in a civilized way.  And you didn't do anything for me to take personally.  Besides if everyone agreed about everything all the time that would be boring

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Day 4: 1st

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Two days to go to the end of the Oricon week. The announcement of number 1 for the week will be made Tuesday 7AM (JST). It's looking good.

[Sukoshi]

I'm so happy for them!  They are so close now to getting weekly no.1!  Let's hope they can pull it off

[DroolBoy]

I wonder just how much this single sold.. O_______O~

[Rocaix]

I hope this doesn't end up like Def. Diva's Suki Sugite Baka Mitai.

Hit #1 for the week, but sell less than 30 000.

In fact that would be a disaster as it be much less than both Sexy Boy and Ambitious's first week sales.

[Blu-Cherri]

I'm really glad it's still holding at number 1, because it is possible to get weekly number 1 without getting the number 1 for evreyday so it's great they're still holding the daily number 1!! woot

[DroolBoy]

Let us review what was in SEXY BOY / Ambitious' first weeks:

SEXY BOY:
1  NEWS -- something  -- 100k something  
2  Hikawa Kiyoshi  Ikken  55,439  
3  Shonannokaze  Junrenka  43,983  
4  Morning Musume  Sexy Boy ~Soyokaze ni Yorisotte~  36,531  
5  Hamasaki Ayumi  Startin' / Born To Be...  30,176  
6  Angela Aki  Kiss Me Good-Bye  27,566  
7  Remioromen  Taiyou no Shita  24,434  
8  Nakama Yukie with Downloads  Koi no Download  21,633  
9  MONKEY MAJIK  Around The World  18,510  
10  SunSet Swish  My Pace  18,057

Ambitious:
 #  Artist  Single  Sales  
1 Ayumi Hamasaki BLUE BIRD 160,572
2  TOKIO  Get Your Dream  56,304  
3  YUI for Amane Kaoru  Good-bye days  44,357  
4  Morning Musume  Ambitous!  37,065  
5  Hirano Aya, Gotou Yuuko  Suzumiya Haruhi...  32,499  
6  Yamashita Tomohisa  Daite Señorita  22,598  
7  Kuraki Mai  DIAMOND WAVE  21,160  
8  PIERROT  HELLO  20,936  
9  Teshima Aoi  Therru no Uta  16,435  
10  V6  Good Day!!  16,280  

I think they might get about the same.. or maybe even 40k+ D:

[tamatron]

The sales won't be too bad because of the DVD and booklet, but I don't think it'll be that good either. 40k isn't too far.

There might be a big drop in the following week. :/

[LovelyMermaid]

Well I'm just happy for them, I really hope they get the weekly number 1! :kgreat:

The sterotype of them being only for pervs really pisses me off, I have to say. I have never looked at them in a perveted way myself and I've always loved them for their music and diverse personalities. I know that sterotype will always be there though.

[DroolBoy]

I imagine that if you're actually in Japan, it's more evident.. x.x

I wonder what wota do when MoMusu comes around for handshake sessions and stuff.. x.x

[sousora]

I no longer say I'm a Momusu fan in Japan. You either get outright laughed at, or you get the O.o look. I actually prefer the first...

[RionZ]

w00t, still #1, the girls are still going strong, and those recent performances on popjam, music station, and music fighter don't hurt either

[reyfer]

Just want to say that if you need other people to approve your tastes, go ahead and deny your liking of MM. Me? I like MM, and I see no reason to deny it either here or in Japan, because I like it FOR ME, don't need approval from anyone else.
And apparently, the sales are GOOD

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Aruiteru still going strong, Saturday's ranking: 1st!

With only Sunday's ranking to go, a straight number 1 week seems like a possibility. The last Morning Musume single to do that was Souda! We're Alive in February 2002.