Author Topic: Official Racing Thread (Read 180464 times)

ctz · « **Reply #500 on:** July 22, 2007, 03:20:24 PM »

Raikkonen had hydraulics problem again in Germany! Well there goes his chances for championship. Next year then! Losing to Alonso didn't raise Massa's points either. Fight for the championship is going to be between Alonso and Hamilton now... and probably Alonso is gonna win that battle.

But it was a nice and entertaining race, gotta admit that. But what the hell was that towing help for Hamilton? Ok, his engine might have been running, but they lift him back to track with a crane? At least he didn't score any points...

ggliff · « **Reply #501 on:** July 22, 2007, 06:44:24 PM »

Yes, Hamilton no points

but what cool thinking to stay in the car and get some help from a crane lol

What a great race, who said F1 is boring! nice move by Alonso at the end, nothing wrong there IMO. Nice to see a red bull up there, especially the one driven by Webber, a real nice bloke.

And that makes things fun in the championship as well.

Oh, if only Lewis did not touch the two mad williams at the start, he was up to 4th then...

JFC · « **Reply #502 on:** July 23, 2007, 06:41:29 AM »

Story of my life.

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Slept in again...then I was out for the whole day so I couldn't watch the replay broadcast either.

ferrar1 · « **Reply #503 on:** July 23, 2007, 09:11:29 AM »

i was on Malaysia's North South highway when the race was going on

i got to see the qualifying though, and will catch race replay later tonight.

ctz · « **Reply #504 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:51:52 PM »

According to hearings by FIA today, McLaren have had stolen Ferrari data, but there is not enough proof that they have used that information this season. McLaren got away without any penalties.

Well, I guess it is a good this way.

JFC · « **Reply #505 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:22:59 PM »

Good for McLaren, but not good for Ferrari if that stolen data was used.

ggliff · « **Reply #506 on:** July 29, 2007, 03:48:22 PM »

Yes, I think it was a technical 'possession' where one of the McLaren team had the data, but no proof that anyone else used it.

Also, Bernie would not want a court case ruining the Hamilton effect publicity thing thats going on now. Lots of new viewers do not want to see the usual F1 legal circus affecting the championship. edit and nor do I

daigong · « **Reply #507 on:** July 30, 2007, 07:38:16 AM »

Here's the rest of the champ car weekend...I must say, I'm a changed man. A new fan if u must. Here's the CHAMP car trophy they win:

Met Mario Andretti, but had to pay a 30 buck "paddock pass" to get in:

and he signed my ticket. The huge bodyguard kept shit moving along lol

here he is driving around, going "start ur engines!" and stuff:
[youtube=425,350]Dz8XXH3--fI[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz8XXH3--fI

...still, I gotta keep it real. Here's a bunch of babes hopping into a golf cart:

Even that punk ass Malcollm in the Middle got into some action, he finished like 17th in the Atlantic series:

Finally, the BIG RACE...I love my camera work..check out the 1st minute where I scope the people around me

[youtube=425,350]_UF__imfuoY[/youtube]
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_UF__imfuoY

Bourdais the McDonald's guy won in a sleeper!

Paul Newman, old man on the left:

ctz · « **Reply #508 on:** July 30, 2007, 10:55:42 AM »

ChampCar looks nice... At least on that daigong's video

Quote from: ggliff on July 29, 2007, 03:48:22 PM

Yes, I think it was a technical 'possession' where one of the McLaren team had the data, but no proof that anyone else used it.

Also, Bernie would not want a court case ruining the Hamilton effect publicity thing thats going on now. Lots of new viewers do not want to see the usual F1 legal circus affecting the championship. edit and nor do I

What comes to this case again, I was quite happy in my last post that McLaren got away without any punishments. No one wants to see it affect to the championship. However, if we think about it, the decision gives a quite a weird message. Basically they stated that McLaren had broken the rules, but deserved no punishments because they can't proof that they have gained advantage.

With this logic, breaking the rules is ok in F1, if there is no proof having an advantage because of that. Ferrari can actually test as much as they like... Others have to prove that those tests have improved the car or something.

ggliff · « **Reply #509 on:** July 30, 2007, 04:36:01 PM »

Thanks for the champ car stuff daigong, as I said before, I'm very jealous, especially of meeting the great Andretti. lol sounds like a H!P handshake event, where you have the staff moving everyone along

@ ctz
Yes, it is a strange message for sure. But the bottom line in all of F1 is, IMHO, if Bernie thinks they should have been done they would have been, if not they get away. lots of quite words in corridors - don't wreck the championship etc. not saying its right, but to be honest, i do not see big Ron acting this way so I think the outcome was OK.

But yeah, you can just see the future when someone does something wrong: but Bernie, we did not gain an advantage, prove we did! Should be fun for the lawyers

JFC · « **Reply #510 on:** July 31, 2007, 06:55:19 PM »

* JFC sees dai's stuff.

ggliff · « **Reply #511 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:35:12 PM »

McLaren hits back, and how
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=32299

very very interesting, getting to the truth of the whole thing now I think, seems like its actually the red boys been a bit naughty

JFC · « **Reply #512 on:** August 02, 2007, 06:47:41 PM »

Oooooooooooh...it's getting good now.

ggliff · « **Reply #513 on:** August 04, 2007, 01:16:38 PM »

All I have to say is

ALONSO IS A CHEATING BASTARD

stuff it to him tomorrow Lewis

sid_coz · « **Reply #514 on:** August 04, 2007, 02:00:04 PM »

have been away again.... and have surly missed the thread. more so because what a happening 2 weeks these have been! F1 is really abuzz..... and frankly not happy about it myself. But i am actually in double minds. If Mclaren has cheated (of which i have no doubts) they should be punished. But in the interest of the sport i was ok about FIA letting them off...... as it would have created a lot of negative publicity. But with the new counter allegations (Mclaren saying Ferrari cheated in Melbourne and Ferrari denying it & also the Court of Appeal thing) i think that if Mclaren DID really cheat, then again in the interest of the game shouldnt they really be punished. I think thats what would be Ferrari's point of view..... to which i dont disagree. Like i said a double mind. Would appreciate u guys views on it.
As to the Australian GP i feel Ferrari would have done EXACTLY as Mclaren claims but to put it rightly..... its more of a case of finding a loophole in the rules and using it..... which practically every team (including mclaren) does .... why only teams everyone everywhere does it to get the better of any scenario. So i dont think Ferrari is at the wrong there (esp when the stewards cleared both the cars!)

sid_coz · « **Reply #515 on:** August 04, 2007, 02:13:31 PM »

truly not good days for Ferrari...... Mclaren 1-2 at qualifying.... and a 4-14 for Ferrari. Real stroke of bad luck running the Ferrari season. I think 4 years of Mclaren bad luck has taken its toll on the scarlet cars.
Though i still hope the front runners crash into eachother. Given their rivalries its quite a possible scenario!

sid_coz · « **Reply #516 on:** August 04, 2007, 02:24:19 PM »

sorry to be posting remark after remark...... but couldnt help but post this ... check it out:
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2007/8/6588.html

Like i said .... a mclaren fight is more predictable scenario..... being a Ferrari fan i cant but hope for the best!

ctz · « **Reply #517 on:** August 08, 2007, 02:46:40 PM »

I missed the race last weekend, but what I heard it was kinda boring... At least compared to what happened at qualifying

Alonso and Hamilton are really heated up now. Great! This is how it should be. Thumbs up for hot teammate-hate! Thumbs down for FIA, who messed up giving Alonso and McLaren punishments. Hamilton didn't let Alonso pass on track, so I think it was just fair that Alonso had his payback

. I don't understand what rule did he break there. And no points for McLaren? What the hell.. It is just like that FIA is punishing McLaren randomly because theyt couldn't give any sanctions over the spying case. McLaren has already protested FIA's decision, so there's just more points for court room to decide who's gonna get them.

And what comes to spying case, it seems that McLaren screwed it up this time. Ron Dennis' excuses about how they used the spied information only to bust Ferrari's illegal parts is ridiculous. Sir Ron, the defender of righteousness, yeah right. After that I wouldn't be surprised if they really would lose all their points this season.

It's sad that one of the most interesting seasons for a long time is ruined by this mess.

ggliff · « **Reply #518 on:** August 08, 2007, 03:44:39 PM »

Quote from: ctz on August 08, 2007, 02:46:40 PM

It's sad that one of the most interesting seasons for a long time is ruined by this mess.

Quite agree. But I don't think they will mess with the drivers championship points, too much bad publicity. And as much as I was very amused by Alonso being put down the grid, it was a team matter i think. The stewards should have not got involved.

And you sure did not miss much ctz, another boring Hungarian GP, I don't know why we keep going there.

But goooo Hamilton. He just does not seem to be affected by anything on or of the track. What a rookie!

sid_coz · « **Reply #519 on:** August 09, 2007, 06:18:03 AM »

Hung-bore-ring.....thats what it was!!

Right: what they did to alonso.

Wrong: (even though a Ferrari supporter) strapping McLaren of the team points

Interesting: the differences between Alonso, Hamilton & Mclaren.. in which it appears that the latter two are sort of teaming up against the former world champ.

Threat: Alonso may leave Mclaren mid-season!