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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2006, 04:11:15 PM »
^^ wtf i was just about to post that too  lol

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2006, 05:45:45 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2006, 06:26:16 PM »
So many rock songs like single Step you/is this Love?  -it seems to be very good album.

I would have liked Ayu to sing also in taskinst. It really starts at 0:38.

My rating for every new songs   I mean I like it! :heart:

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2006, 06:54:40 PM »
Can't help myself, i've gotta write how I feel about the songs XD Then I'll rate them by giving them a number out of five hearts XD

Track 1: Not Yet
This song is a total feast for the ears. It's very short and that's the coolest part, it leaves you wanting to listen to more!! :D It could never be a single, but that's kind of the point, short and increadibly sweet.
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 2: untill that Day
Starts out as though it's continuing the theme of the first song, then gains a rock-ish beat. Very soulful. It becomes a little 80's rock sounding as it goes on. It does become very repetitive for me, just the beat in the background, though.
3 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 3: Startin'
Gotta love this one; catchy and fun. To me, the chorus is the best part :D
4 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 4: 1 Love
Next to the rest of the songs on the album, this one seems to slip through the cracks, for me, that is. It's nothing very special, more experementing with rock and stuff.
3 1/2 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: 1/2

Track 5: It was
Softer then some of the others and still lots of rock elements to it. I actually like the verses better on this one as opposed to the chorus. It's really, really repetitive though.
3 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 6: LABYRINTH
No singing and only over a minute long! It's perfect for leading up to Jewel and Momentum with its wintery feel. Very, very beautiful.
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 7: JEWEL
Such a beautiful song. Gentle but kind of powerful and I love how it sounds like a fantasy winter. Even without watching the PV it convays the same feelings and images (or maybe I've been string at the video too long :D)
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 8: momentum
So beautiful and wintery sounding. The midtempo is interesting for me to listen to, it's like Ayu could have made it much faster but it's great that she didn't because to me the tempo feels like snow. Love it, love it!!
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 9: taskinst
Pretty cool...the sounds are interesting and pretty, the rocking out is fun too XD..no singing yet again.
4 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 10: Born to Be
It's a nice, powerful song. Not really my favorite sort of style but it's a good song XD
3 1/2 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: 1/2

Track 11: Beautiful Fighters
Love this song :D More fun to watch with the PV for me, though XD We are beaauuutiful fiiighers...
4 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 12: BLUE BIRD
I love this song, I love it, I love it!! :D :inlove: ...but don't we all? XD It's refreshing to hear on the album, honestly.
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Track 13: Kiss o' Kill
A little messy sounding for me. I dunno, I don't think I'll listen to this often XD
2 1/2 hearts!! :heart: :heart: 1/2

Track 14: Secret
A littly draggy, but there's some really beautiful singing and music on this track! Really good song overall!!
4 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

Ok, so overall I think I wanted to hear less rock on this album and more fun electronic pop stuff (like I am sorta). I really loved the wintery songs like Jewel and Momentum. Blue Bird was a favorite to being with so that sort of rounded it out for me. The fact that there was three short music only tracks was nice, but it felt like they were only filler songs to make the album a full album or something XD

So, when I average out the hearts given to each song, Secret gets:
Four Hearts!! (3.6 to be exact, but rounded up XD)
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2006, 08:13:07 PM »
Yeah I'm going to listen to it though normally I don't because it's coming in the mail.  But it came out too early this year ><
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2006, 08:13:22 PM »
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Secret has LEAKED.

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Oh boy! I should have it late next week on an actual CD in my mail box. I can wait... no I can't XD Ok, let's have it already! (Self-talking to me) Although... posters can't be leaked, huh? Hahahaha~~ I will have it soon~~

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2006, 08:42:27 PM »
Its now officially one of my fave ayu albums, I'm not sure how it'll rank.  I'll go on an Ayu listening session binge some time this week and decide. :lol:

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2006, 08:58:48 PM »
first impression ranking:

01 Not yet - This is a little weird sounding.  It's just not something you'd expect, and really out of the box.  I can't really get a feel for whether I like it or not.  It really sounds like the beginning of a really long remix.  It sounds really repetitive lyricswise too.  At 1:27 it gets a little quiet but then goes back into the remix-y feel.  I classify it as an "interlude" because it's repetitive, sounds like a remix, and is super short at 2:01.

02 until that Day...  Uh.. okay?  At first impression, it sounds like an 80s/Classic rock song.  Haha.  At 1:00 it becomes a little more technoish.  The vocals seem to be at a minimum, and the background is more prominent, that's why it feels like an interlude.  It almost feels like a remix as well, I'm assuming the chorus starts at 1:45 and if it does, I like the chorus a lot.  The fast singing is cool, because it's done in a sort of new way.  The end of the chorus is very interesting as well, with the whole drums going with her voice.  I don't like the robot voice though, haa~.  The guitar gets a little boring, simply because it's not really used well.  At 3:36 it sounds like it gets acoustic and a violin holds a long note, which is refreshing from the rest of the song, but then it goes back to the same old, same old, and continues that way for the rest of the song..  A song that I think I'd have to be in the mood to listen to it..  I like the ending a lot at least.

03 Startin' - A song I've always liked, though it's sort of a new style for her.  The guitar arrangement is nice in this one.  I also like that it's a lower key than she usually tries and the way she sings.  The vibrato actually sounds real for once.  I don't like the English echo thing "Tell me startin'" or whatever.  The chorus is one of the best parts of the song, the tempo sounds exactly where it should be which I can't say for all the songs on this album.  The interlude and the guitar solo is nice too, I like how it keeps the pace of the song which is sometimes difficult during free solos.  I like the weird crowd sort of drums at the end as well, though I don't remember them being in the single (perhaps I have a bad memory).  Once again though I don't know if its novelty will wear off, as with JEWEL.

04 1 LOVE - I like this song from the first few seconds, which is rare.  The singing doesn't sound like it really goes with the guitar but around :50 it starts going together (the part before the chorus).  "JUST ONE LOVE!"  They slowed it down a lot from the panasonic ads from listening to the chorus.  The best part about this song, in my opinion, is the end of the chorus when the bass goes with her voice.  The guitar playing is really supurb in this song which I think is rare (I mean, it's always GOOD but I've been hard pressed to find a song besides alterna that it could be considered 'supurb').  At first I was disappointed with the guitar solo because I thought it was repeating the same thing over and over and then I see that it goes into a true solo.  Another one I'd be interested to see live because yoshio tends to mix those up in lives.  I overall think this song is very good, kind of MY STORY style.

05 It was - At first seems very simple and calm... and stays that way through the verse.  They put some sort of effect on her voice in part of the verses but doesn't sound bad.  In the chorus it gets a lot heavier.  Once again a MY STORYish song, something I would've expected on that album.  I'm a little disappointed that whoever composed it didn't try to think out of the box, but I suppose you have to have these types of song on every album.  There isn't even a guitar solo to blow me away.  All in all, I sadly probably won't listen to this song a lot even though it's good simply because that's what I tend to do to songs that sound the way this one does (and she has a million of them).  Though this song IS in one of my favorite key signatures.

06 LABYRINTH - Great, the word I can't pronounce.  I love the word itself but I always pronounce it "lab-rin-ith" rather than "lab-rinth".  I like it from the beginning, and at :49 it starts all coming together, sort of like adding instruments (I think it's an echoing piano).  And at 1:08 it starts throwing in sharps and flats to make it AWESOME.  I'm a little disappointed it was only an interlude and not a real song though.

07 JEWEL - i've listened to this song a lot and it SOUNDS like the second coming of HEAVEN but the lyrics are like the second coming of Free and Easy.  I'm not sure if I like HEAVEN or JEWEL more, I probably like JEWEL better because the lyrics are more uplifting and not about death.  Also the chorus is very moving, even though it doesn't crescendo you know that it's the most important part of the song because her voice gets more dramatic.  I do think she sings really oddly in this one though, if you listen to the beginnings of words.. well, it's just not how she usually sings.  Also the harmonies are faint but go well with the composition.  The best lyrics of the song is at the end "You are my precious treasure".  But I don't know how long I'll actually listen to it, the novelty might wear off like HEAVEN's did.

08 momentum - At first, it doesn't sound like anything special... Okay, the verse isn't very special either.  I expected it to crescendo into some big verse or chorus but so far it's still boring.  It reminds me of a Final Fantasy song, perhaps because of the little triangle.  It gets a little better as it's going into the chorus.. and I really like the chorus.  It's talking about shiroi yuki (snow).  "Boku no saiko no yuki" haha.  "It's my best snow".   It has a way of sounding almost summery because it's upbeat.  It reminds me a lot of fairyland.  Overall:  I thought this song would be really great but on the album it comes up a little average.  It's not bad, but just average.  Probably one I'll be skipping past, but it sounds like it'd be good performed live.  Probably one of my favorite named songs though!

09 taskinst - return of the taskin, I'd like to call this.  It sounds like almost a musicbox at first with drums, very calm.  Then all of a sudden it goes into a very rockish sound, perhaps to contrast the two types of songs on the album?  Either way, some nice guitar playing here.  After the song has had its little "rock" fit, it goes back down to the simple and calm for a few seconds before fading out.  A nice little break from the album.

10 Born to Be... - The downfall of the album.  No, haha, this is my least favorite song of the album though.  I'm forcing myself to listen to it all the way through like I did when she performed it on the concert.  What exactly don't I like about this song?  I can't really put my finger on it.  It sounds very "upbeat", but I really dislike the chorus.  Ayu sings wonderfully in it, but the guitar is boring and the bells in the background are sort of a joke.  This song just hasn't ever caught my attention because I don't like it.  The interlude.. just sounds very Olympics.  Maybe that's why I didn't ever like it, because I kind of despise the Olympics.  Overall, a song that merits a surefire skip from me every time I listen to the album.

11 Beautiful Fighters - Ayu puts on her cute voice to deliver the album's "kawaii" song.  Honestly, this is the type of song you either like or don't.  The type is very upbeat and "feel good", even the lyrics are very "girl power".  For me, it's enjoyable, though I hate the PV a lot.  This song had to grow on me, I had to learn to like this style of song because it's not something that I usually like.  If you liked HONEY on MY STORY, this is kind of like a toned down version of it, in my opinion.  It's more listenable than HONEY but I would stray far from it if you don't like "kawaii pop" as I think I'm going to start labelling these types of songs.

12 BLUE BIRD - The song eases you in at the first verse, and then around :53 gets into the actual chorus and rocks your socks off.  A lot of people said it should've been called fairyland #2 and I think that's true, especially from the video.  It sounds very summery because it came out in the summer.  The background voices go well with the main voice, very upbeat, not clashing at all.  It fades out in the middle and then comes back to the powerful chorus.  The lyrics are also very nice if you ever get around to reading the translation.  Overall, a very upbeat, happy, summer song for when you're feeling down.

13 kiss o' kill - The best part is in the chorus when it goes to 3/4 time for like three notes.  The organ solo @ 3:20 is badass as well.  Also when the music starts dropping during the chorus after that is really awesome.  I think the verses are a little bland but the chorus is awesome and the composition as well.

14 Secret - A very sweet song from the first note that talks about women and the sky?  And a child.  I especially favor the composition, though I think it would've sounded better as a ballad.  I said another song was MY STORYish, and this could be considered (miss)understoodish, though she sings a little weird as was the same case in JEWEL.  Her voice sounds a little low quality though and I'm listening to the 320kbps version of it!  Perhaps it's a filter?  Well, I don't like that.  The song is very slow the entire way through, though around 3:20 there's a violin solo where it picks up a little, then the music drops out.  After listening to it, I think it sounds a little safe and cookie cutter, which is a little disappointing, because you would think you would want to end the album on a strong note.  I guess they wanted to go the safe way.  Sounds like the song that would end a concert to me.







also I have 320kbps if anyone's interested in it.
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2006, 09:35:16 PM »
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Can't help myself, i've gotta write how I feel about the songs XD Then I'll rate them by giving them a number out of five hearts XD

Track 1: Not Yet
This song is a total feast for the ears. It's very short and that's the coolest part, it leaves you wanting to listen to more!! :D It could never be a single, but that's kind of the point, short and increadibly sweet.
5 hearts!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:


You are so right! It's like Ai Otsuka's 5:09am - a short song that ends too early but that makes it unique.
BTW It's nice to read everyone's opinions of the songs.
...and yes we all love BLUE BIRD :heart:  It was the song and PV I remember of the last summer.

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2006, 11:08:57 PM »
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You can't make a bootleg of something that isn't out, wakaba :P

Maybe the day after the 29th, but not before O_O

Yes, you can, if you have the right connections... :P LOL

Edit: Thank you for the leak, too^~
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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2006, 11:16:18 PM »
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You are so right! It's like Ai Otsuka's 5:09am - a short song that ends too early but that makes it unique.
BTW It's nice to read everyone's opinions of the songs.
...and yes we all love BLUE BIRD :heart:  It was the song and PV I remember of the last summer.


Do you know, it was so hard for me to write that thing about Not yet? I had like, two paragraphs, but I had to narrow it down and get to the point of what I was saying; I jut wanted to go on and on about that song XD I've never heard that Ai Otsuka song, but I love songs like that.

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2006, 11:36:27 PM »
Listening to the leaked version of the album right now... and I really like it! :heart: "1 LOVE" does sound MY STORY-ish, as Gray pointed out... I get almost an "About You" feeling from it LOL The only songs I'm not exicted about are "Born To Be..." and "Beautiful Fighters" which I didn't like the first time around XD I wish Ayu had composed new songs in place of those 2 repeats from her singles, but so far, seems to be a pretty solid album^^ I won't say it's up to I am...'s par (which I kind of had hopes for XD) but it's a good album in its own right~ with Ayu, you really can't go wrong^^ :heart:

Btw, what are everyone's fave Ayu songs? Right now I'm really wanting to listen to "M" which is probably my absolute *FAVE* Ayu song! :heart:
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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2006, 11:49:46 PM »
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I won't say it's up to I am...'s par (which I kind of had hopes for XD) but it's a good album in its own right~ with Ayu, you really can't go wrong^^ :heart:


Unfortunatly, I feel the same way XD I wish it had been a little more I Am...ish

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2006, 11:53:32 PM »
^ Me, too... I'm up to "BLUE BIRD" right now (I skipped "Born To Be" and "Beautiful Fighters" ick XD LOL) At first listen, I really liked it because it started strong, but it's kind of going down some... I can't say this album is a total disappointment, because it *is* Ayu, and I *do* like a number of the songs, but I definitely had a lot of expectations for it and imo, it fell a little bit flat XD Ah, well... Thanks to DB for this leak, because now I'm not so sure if I'm actually going to purchase it this week or wait a while LOL

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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2006, 01:57:06 AM »
It's impossible for Ayu to make another "I Am...".  :]  Everyone has the golden point in their career and I just don't think it's possible for her to hit that point again xD
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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2006, 02:09:52 AM »
For some reason I think Ayu will peak higher next year if she releases another album. This year she actually held the #1 in the WORLD charts for (miss)understood for a week, something not a lot of japanese artists have done.  (some japanese artists have been popping up at #1 in the world charts recently, yay)

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« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2006, 02:41:32 AM »
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^ Me, too... I'm up to "BLUE BIRD" right now (I skipped "Born To Be" and "Beautiful Fighters" ick XD LOL) At first listen, I really liked it because it started strong, but it's kind of going down some... I can't say this album is a total disappointment, because it *is* Ayu, and I *do* like a number of the songs, but I definitely had a lot of expectations for it and imo, it fell a little bit flat XD Ah, well... Thanks to DB for this leak, because now I'm not so sure if I'm actually going to purchase it this week or wait a while LOL


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« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2006, 10:00:01 AM »
I think all the songs are awesome. Who can still think of I am at a point like this one? Haha~~ Best is Best and ok, It's I am, but Secret is awesome. She's the only artist I like when going rock-ish on the songs without being annoying nor repetitive. Just for this she deserves a lot of worshiping. Half of the album has this rock feeling and I don't mind. The other half is ballads, old pop of hers and Not yet is simply a gift of awesomeness. The interludes are great as well. I wish they'd be real songs!

Even with the previews, I was not too confident on some songs. Pardon me, Ayu. It's all amazing. A kickass album. Totally kickass. I am full of work so I can't write an accurate review, but I will in the next days. OMG can't wait to have it in my hands...

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« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2006, 01:01:51 PM »
Same here, Shaoran. :P Same here.


I can't wait for momentum to just leak already. It's come out on MTV~
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