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[jChu*]

Here he goes again...
Kobe, 53 pts in three quarters.

*Goes back to the game*

EDIT: OMFG...    81!!

[Ching1670]

Kobe...insnae=.=
81 pt......
Why dont the Raptors triple team him or whatever :evil:

[scrock7]

wow... bryant has just became the biggest ball hog in my book  
i mean its amazing he took 46 shots out of 88 team FG attempt

[ampedechoz]

damn, that was insane!!!! 81 points!!!! he outscored the whole raptors roster.

[daigong]

wow... bryant has just became the biggest ball hog in my book  
i mean its amazing he took 46 shots out of 88 team FG attempt

 

That's pure leadership. He just lit a fire under his teammates in the 2nd half with tight defense, and the Raptors zone just melted.

I'm still speechless. Rewatching the game, good thing I decided to tape it.

Pure history in the making.

[jChu*]

wow... bryant has just became the biggest ball hog in my book  
i mean its amazing he took 46 shots out of 88 team FG attempt

As much of a ball hog that he is, he was the reason the Lakers won that game.   The Raps were up by as much as 17 and Kobe TOOK OVER. There is no way in hell his team would've won if Kobe wasn't firing shots the way he did.

Historial night indeed.

[ytl]

I am sure he will try to break Wilt's record next time.  Raptors should fire Sam Mitchell on the scene to save their club from further humiliation.......they were leading 18pts at the begining of the 2nd half.

81pts is phenominal sure, but I bet MJ could have done it too if he has that hand check rule back in the days.

We just see how the scoring in NBA skyrocketed after the rule changed, same to NHL too.  So it's more like the result of right timing plus hot shooting night.  I want to see if someone can get another quadriple double more than just one dimensional scoring.

[Thimas X]

Its mind boggling!!!!!

40.5.....TWICE!!!!!!


 :evil: and I didn't watch the game!!!!

[scrock7]

As much of a ball hog that he is, he was the reason the Lakers won that game.

and he is also the reason why the Lakers lost most of the other games  

[kaede]

As much of a ball hog that he is, he was the reason the Lakers won that game.

and he is also the reason why the Lakers lost most of the other games  

Totally agree...Kobe takes so many shots per game...of course he is the reason of Lakers wins or loses...look at the Lakers' record now and ppl should notice this is not a good sign for Lakers
Raptors should be ashamed by their 2nd half performance  

[TheQuickening]

As much of a ball hog that he is, he was the reason the Lakers won that game.

and he is also the reason why the Lakers lost most of the other games  

Totally agree...Kobe takes so many shots per game...of course he is the reason of Lakers wins or loses...look at the Lakers' record now and ppl should notice this is not a good sign for Lakers

Definitely. The rest of the Lakers' players need to step up their games so that the brunt of the load isn't on Kobe's shoulders.  Sure he's their go-to guy and all, but still, if for any reason he's out of commission, they're going to be totally screwed if the other players can't take their game to the next level.

[ytl]

Kobe has taken all the shots even back in Shaq's days....

I don't see the step up of other teammate will matter at all...... I remembered he got one triple double right after a game ppl complained he shoots too much...... so it's still depends on Kobe's decision.  He wants to share the rock or not.  Not even PJ's decision will matter in this case.

[scrock7]

Kobe has taken all the shots even back in Shaq's days....

I don't see the step up of other teammate will matter at all...... I remembered he got one triple double right after a game ppl complained he shoots too much...... so it's still depends on Kobe's decision.  He wants to share the rock or not.  Not even PJ's decision will matter in this case.

thats the thing about kobe, i don't really care how many points he is able to score in one game, he will never be the best all-time player in my book, right now (if i am able to build a NBA team) i can list at least over 20 people that i will want on the team before i even consider kobe

on the sports center the other day, forgot who said it... "kobe is definitely MVP this year" why?.. just becz he can score a lot?! i don't see how that make him a great player, just mediocre

btw, Wade is definitely a lot better player than Kobe

[Sponge Bob]

I don't get how no one could stop him -_- lol
Sam Mitchell coulda double teamed or even triple teamed kobe, but no, put one guy on him -_-, you dont put matt bonner or mo pete on him -_-

At least i owned kobe in NBA 2K6 with arenas  

Imagine if kobe got 81pts vs the heat, Shaq would definitely go beserk  

1 more point: Kobe sucks -_-

[Jsmurf]

why mvp?? Take away kobe from the lakers and what do you have....nothing, odom? meh.  you take away wade from the team and you still have shaq, gp, mourning, williams. Now this does'nt mean that he should be mvp but he does make a big impact on the team.  and as far as better player goes, its hard to tell unless they go one on one.  If you're on a good team, the skill level of yer teammates make you a better player.  Its harder to play well when you're on a bad team, would wade have been able to score 81 pts if he were in koby's shoes with the (lol)Lakers in any given scenario? seriously doubt that

[scrock7]

I don't get how no one could stop him -_- lol

cuz toronto doesn't emphasize defense... look @ the team
and becz Lakers hasn't played the Pistons yet and San Antonio limited kobe to 25 points... look @ the teams kobe scored 40-50 points on... are the teams doesn't play defense... when the Lakers play the Pistons, the Pistons will be all over kobe cuz they will NOT allow him to do that. The Cavs limited him to 27 points the other night

and of course, kobe will never score 81 points on shaq, but if he does? thats the night shaq will break Wilt Chamberlain's single game scoring record

Nowaday NBA has changed from the old days, to some player, defense doesn't exist (coughvincecartercough) and the mavs of course

why mvp?? Take away kobe from the lakers and what do you have....nothing, odom?

oh, i am pretty sure that if you put Dwayne Wade on the Lakers, he can bring the best out of Lakers just like he brought the best out of HEAT last year. Sure Kobe is a decent player, he can score he cant shoot but he cant play with a team thats why Odom isn't playing to his full potential... look at Odom when he was back with HEAT, man he was all-star material, doing almost everything that he can for the team but I don't blame the HEAT for trading Odom for Shaq cuz every team can use a Shaq.

I even consider Chris Paul a better player than Kobe Bryant, sure Chris Paul is 1st yr player, they aren't gonna win a lot of games but he has brought the team together with his game.... the team is young with David West but the Hornets are gonna be scary in a few years.

Steve Nash was named MVP last year cuz he was able to bring the Suns together, he brought out Amare Stoudemire to his full potential, also the best out of Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson. this is one thing that Kobe will never able to do in his career with the way he is playing. Wade was also able to bring out the BEST out of Shaq, Damon Jones last yr but that team was still not the best, but improving. The Lakers will not even get close on winning the title if kobe keep playing like this (sure they probably might make the playoff 7th or 8th seed) and get knocked off the 1st round 4-0 or 4-1

[Jsmurf]

Nobody can help the current laker team, not even wade. if he were an addition yes but otherwise.... .  As far as wade bringing out the best in shaq, last year it was more of the rivalry/anamosity between him and kobe that brought the best out of shaq.  Fortunatly for the heat, its things like this that motivates a player to do his best.  
In shaq's last year with the lakers, he was fat, out of shape and lazy.  It was'nt because of kobe's inability to make him a better player, shaq was skipping practices on purpose and comeing in late all the time.  why do you think jerry buss told the media that if he would have known that shaq would have gotten back in shape and lost all that weight, he never would have traded him.

[jChu*]

oh, i am pretty sure that if you put Dwayne Wade on the Lakers, he can bring the best out of Lakers just like he brought the best out of HEAT last year.

I even consider Chris Paul a better player than Kobe Bryant, sure Chris Paul is 1st yr player, they aren't gonna win a lot of games but he has brought the team together with his game.... the team is young with David West but the Hornets are gonna be scary in a few years.

I agree that if Wade was on the Lakers, he can bring the best out of his teammates better than Kobe can cuz Kobe isn't exactly a playmaker. But I can assure you if Kobe was on the Heat in their current roster right now, the HEAT will easily DOMINATE the entire league.

Kobe is a ball-hog, but can you blame him? Look at the Lakers line-up. The second go-to guy is Odom and he's playin like shit right now.  Yeah, he was pretty good playing with the Heat and the Clippers, but now he's just overrated. Whenever I see him with the ball... scratch that... whenever I see him on the COURT, he can somehow, in some way, does something so retarded that results in a Lakers turnover.

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Example #1: Lakers vs. Kings (Jan 19) - With less than 30 seconds to go and up by 2(?), Odom has the ball. The smart thing to do at this point is to play out the clock and try to get a good looking shot. Instead, he tried to be the hero and drives to the hole to get the basket. He was called for a charge, turns the ball over, King ties the game forcing overtime and won the game in the end.

Example #2: Lakers vs. Raptors (Jan 22) - This is more of a subtle thing but... Odom has the ball, decides to drive to the hole, does a little spin move to shake off his defender... but spun right INTO Mihm, his own fuckin teammate. The ball was loose, he fell to the ground, turnover. I was on the ground as well, laughing my ass off.
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These were just some of the things on the top of my head.

I don't mind people saying Kobe sucks or Kobe don't do shit for his teammates cuz everyone is entitled to their own opinions and I respect that. But imagine this. If Kobe develops the sense of sharing the rock and making his teammates better, mixed in with the way his is playing now, I'd say that is the closest anyone in the league in being a resemblance to Jordan.

[pacman]

Look what I found.

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/nbatv/bryant_k_81_060122.asx

Its even got a Kobe counter.

[scrock7]

In shaq's last year with the lakers, he was fat, out of shape and lazy. It was'nt because of kobe's inability to make him a better player, shaq was skipping practices on purpose and comeing in late all the time. why do you think jerry buss told the media that if he would have known that shaq would have gotten back in shape and lost all that weight, he never would have traded him.

u just made my point, Kobe is unable to play with people cuz he is a ball-hog... no matter how good his teammate is, he just can't play with them. I mean Shaq was the best teammate that everyone wants on the team and kobe refuses to pass the ball when shaq can get good shots in result shaq became fat n lazy and wanted to get away from kobe

shaq would NOT have gotten back in shape for kobe becz he is not a good teammate and he did the right thing and found Dwayne Wade

if Kobe was on the Heat in their current roster right now, the HEAT will easily DOMINATE the entire league.

Kobe is a ball-hog, but can you blame him?

These were just some of the things on the top of my head.

If Kobe develops the sense of sharing the rock and making his teammates better, mixed in with the way his is playing now, I'd say that is the closest anyone in the league in being a resemblance to Jordan.

if u replace dwayne wade with kobe on HEAT, that team is gonna fall apart.... COMPLETELY
1. shaq is gonna fight with kobe, shaq gets fat again
2. no one else would be able to shoot beside kobe
3. HEAT is focus more on teamwork and kobe got none

yes i can blame him, kobe makes himself look better by making his teammate worse, thats exactly wat he is right now... Put Lamar Odom on another team (well drugless team), he would perform better.

responding to the last sentence, "IF" he can learn to play as a team, then yes he might become like jordan but he is unable to do that as his current state