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Tuffty · « **Reply #100 on:** June 19, 2008, 12:16:05 PM »

^ If I remember, in the last episode D'anna said the fifth member wasn't a member of the fleet. So if nobody in the current fleet is the 5th, could it be someone who died during the series? We can rule out anyone who D'anna wouldn't have known, Zak Adama for example.

RatBastich · « **Reply #101 on:** June 19, 2008, 05:24:45 PM »

^
Hmm, I must've missed when she said that, about the fifth one not being in the fleet.

frblckstr1 · « **Reply #102 on:** June 19, 2008, 07:07:19 PM »

^ & ^^ must revisit that comment but it was more like 'currently not in the fleet' and that was while there where still a few hostages, no idea if it was meant that subtile but it could be.

Tuffty · « **Reply #103 on:** July 13, 2008, 03:01:48 PM »

I've read a couple of fan theories on who the fifth is, and there's one in particular that seems more plausible to me. And that person is...

Ellen Tigh

Now hold on, let me explain:

1. Most obvious reasoning is that she appears as a vision to Saul Tigh like Caprica Six does with Baltar.

2. D'anna Biers said in Season 4 that the final member was not on the fleet. Naturally, Ellen was dead at this point.

3. During her vision, D'anna apologised to the 5th member. Perhaps this was an apology based on Ellen acting as a spy for the Cylons which lead to her demise on New Caprica

4. Cast your mind back to the episode 'Tigh Me Up, Tigh Me Down' in Season 1 where Ellen made her first appearance. And initially it was quite odd right? She'd been separated from Col. Tigh and assumed killed in the initial attack? I seem to remember there was some suspicion, but was just accepted because Col. Tigh was pleased to see her. And come to think of it Baltar tested her blood and told them all that she was human, however when 6 asked him for the truth he said he wouldnt say and he was gonna keep it a secret and thats the last we heard of it.

5. I've heard that nobody listed in the 'Last Supper' pic (http://scenescreen.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/battlestar-galactica_lastsupper.jpg) is the last member. So you begin to think of who else it may be and you think Tom Zarek, Dee, Gaeta but remember, D'anna said the final member wasn't in the fleet. So really the only other person could be Zak Adama, but due to his early demise D'anna would have no encounter with him.

Of course the big contradiction in my reasoning is that Ellen is dead. But I'm going out on a limb to suggest that the final five download into another body again when they die, but we have no idea if that is true.

Knowing BSG though, they'll find something to completely twist my conceptions around and leave me stunned, guess that's why I love it so.

ctz · « **Reply #104 on:** July 15, 2008, 11:32:42 AM »

That's a quite good reasoning why Ellen Tigh would be a final cylon.

However, The revelation of the final cylon is a big thing, the biggest thing I guess, now that they already found the Earth, and that's why the final cylon should be one of the "big" characters.

Ellen Tigh just didn't have enough screen time, and when she had, she was annoying. Therefore, for me the final cylon being Ellen Tigh would be a great disappointment.

So I think the final cylon would be one of the Adamas, Starbuck, Roslin or Baltar. I placed my bet on the younger Adama before, but now I'm kinda hoping it's the older one. Just because it'd be a great for the new Caprica series.

Tuffty · « **Reply #105 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:32:04 PM »

Final season to have longer episodes?

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The Sci Fi Channel has revealed that each of the final 10 episodes of Battlestar Galactica may be extended should the show's bosses deem it necessary.

Speaking to Sci Fi Wire at the San Diego Comic-Con, executive producer David Eick stated: "We're constantly getting into the editing room with ten, 15, sometimes 20 minutes of material that you can't get into an episode.

"[And] the story has become so critical in order to realise the arc of the series that we can't just cut stuff out and save it for later or push it 'til next year... it's all got to be there."

Ahead of next year's broadcast of the last ever episodes, Eick said the crew was "able to convince the network to let us air... long episodes" and "take single episodes and make them double episodes... [and] double episodes and make them quadruple episodes".

Here's hoping.

frblckstr1 · « **Reply #106 on:** July 31, 2008, 07:21:23 PM »

Tuffty · « **Reply #107 on:** August 07, 2008, 10:38:09 PM »

New movie details - Edward James Olmos to direct - "It will blow you away"

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Months before its final 10 episodes begin airing in January, we now know for certain that "Battlestar Galactica" will live on -- in the form of a two-hour special on the Sci Fi Channel to air in 2009 after the series concludes.

The unnamed feature will be directed by the show's co-star, Edward James Olmos, and written by "Battlestar" writer and former "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" brain Jane Espenson.

The stand-alone will document the Cylons' attempts -- those of two agents in particular -- to grapple with human survivors, both those aboard ships and those left alive on planets, shortly after the Cylons' destruction of human home worlds.

So it's a flashback, but not all the way back.

Three confirmed cast members are Michael Trucco (Sam Anders), Aaron Douglas (Galen Tyrol), and Dean Stockwell (Cavil, Cylon model No. 1) -- all Cylons. Shooting will begin promptly in Vancouver, Canada, and Sci Fi promises women regulars are being cast as well, with more names coming soon.

"Razor," the "BSG" event-movie that aired last November, was a successful test. "Not only did it do well on the air, it did phenomenally well in the international and DVD market," said Mark Stern, executive vice president of original programming for Sci Fi.

Produced by the newly-formed Universal Cable Productions (of which Stern is also a co-head), there is also "a disproportionately larger amount of money from foreign and DVD money," more than would be devoted to an average pilot, he said. (Both "Razor" and the two-hour event/pilot of "Caprica" have been produced in this fashion.) "I think it is the Holy Grail for us, in which we get high-quality programming for a lower license fee," Stern said. He declined to reveal the budget, saying that it was "expensive" and "very healthy," and that they were at first "skeptical" that the studio could get it.

"I was impressed with how high they were able to make it," he said.

So the transformation of Sci Fi and its related and parent entities into essentially a film studio was the hold-up to the deal. "What you don't want to do is do them in some half-assed way where they're not as good as they needed to be," he said.

The channel came to executive producer Ronald D. Moore once the finances were set. The story idea Moore brought back from the writers is the one indeed being made, although there was some back-and- forth, with the network's concern being that a new viewer could jump right in. "What was more of a burden to Ron in this particular case was the availability of who's out there," said Stern.

So did the cast, now more well-known thanks to "BSG," play hardball for their rates in the event-movie? "The cast are lovely," said Stern. "That's not to say we're not getting phone calls from their agents saying, 'They're huge now.' And we're respectful of that. We're not expecting anyone to do it because they owe us. There are actors that have come to some prominence; they're helping us out because they want to do it."

And, on the other side, have the news-hungry fans been driving the network crazy? "The short answer is absolutely not," said Stern, who has been a regular target of angry fans. (He was blamed for the death of "Farscape," even though he arrived at the network after it had been killed.) "The longer answer is all of our fans are kind of rowdy and invested," he said. "There's no question that there's an appetite for wanting more -- by the way, which started with us! We're all feeling, 'Does it have to be over already?' "

So, it does not entirely, though Stern said that more specials would not be produced at the same time as the first, even though some cast and crew would be assembled.

"I promise you that, not having shot a frame of footage, it will blow you away," Stern said.

Oh yes? Let's let the real experts decide.

"I'm a big fan of Edward James Olmos as a director," said Erica Blitz, co-editor of the blog Galactica Sitrep. "All his episodes have been highly unique and really wild, especially that one from Season 3, 'Taking a Break from All Your Worries'? That was wild!"

"I want to see more Jane Espenson," said Annalee Newitz, editor of sci fi blog io9, when consulted, pre-announcement, about her "BSG" future wish list. "I really like her, I like the episodes she's done. She does a really great job with dialogue and character development. She did the episode 'The Hub,' which was like super-amazing."

OK then, so it is on!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/08/battlestar-gala.html

Sounds good! Nice to hear BSG will have some kind of life after the series ends, and the fact that it's so well recieved by the television execs enough to supply a heft budget for it is also quite encouraging.

Tuffty · « **Reply #108 on:** November 22, 2008, 02:23:11 PM »

Season 4.5 Season Sneak Peek Promo

[youtube=425,350]aXqx0YpMY14[/youtube]

Only lasts 10 secs, but it's basically saying a sneak peek will be shown on the American Sci-Fi channel on Thanksgiving Day.

RatBastich · « **Reply #109 on:** November 22, 2008, 04:46:22 PM »

^
Yea, that sneak peek will shown during the James Bond marathon on Thanksgiving Day.

Tuffty · « **Reply #110 on:** November 30, 2008, 08:01:23 PM »

Season 4.5 Trailer

http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=850122

Can't wait.

e_lo05 · « **Reply #111 on:** January 17, 2009, 04:48:00 PM »

who else saw the new episode?! i thought it was good. they revealed a whole lot. what'd everyone else think?

frblckstr1 · « **Reply #112 on:** January 17, 2009, 07:13:41 PM »

I think I would like to know what they did *not* reveal in this ep...

e_lo05 · « **Reply #113 on:** January 18, 2009, 06:41:50 AM »

??? what do you mean?

frblckstr1 · « **Reply #114 on:** January 18, 2009, 09:06:43 AM »

^ I think all big questions I remember that where open for the last half of of the season where answered

- Is/Was Starbuck Dead?
- Who is the 5th/12th model
- Where/Who is the 13th tribe
- What happened to Earth

ctz · « **Reply #115 on:** January 18, 2009, 11:54:08 PM »

Spoilers...

Cylons are the 13th Tribe, yay!

Ellen is the 5th... What an anti-climax! I'm soooo disappointed!

e_lo05 · « **Reply #116 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:23:55 AM »

yea...i know. i was kinda disappointed with the final cylon reveal. it's bsg though. i know the writers will give us some good reasons why she's the final cylon and what it all means. i can't wait til the final episode when everything is wrapped up and everything. man...what am i going to watch after bsg and lost both end??

flamingmoe · « **Reply #117 on:** January 20, 2009, 08:52:19 AM »

^ You can watch the new Caprica series :

Btw, did anyone else see the latest webisodes?

Spoilers.....

Gaeta gay for Hoshi was more of a surprise than Helen Tigh.
Looks like whatever he's planning will be a big part of the rest of the season.

ctz · « **Reply #118 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:14:31 PM »

Quote from: e_lo05 on January 20, 2009, 07:23:55 AM

yea...i know. i was kinda disappointed with the final cylon reveal. it's bsg though. i know the writers will give us some good reasons why she's the final cylon and what it all means.

I lost my faith in RDM (and other BSG writers) after the New Caprica and Lee Adama in fatsuit -plotline

Tuffty · « **Reply #119 on:** January 21, 2009, 08:37:28 PM »

Don't know about you guys, but I thought that episode was completely brilliant.

Let's remember, we only have what, 10 episodes left? 12? It's not a full season we're dealing with, and there's a lot of questions still unanswered. What's up with Starbuck for example? Or how does Baltar see Six? Sharon's baby? It's been a while since the revelation of a nuked-Earth, I was dying to know how the 5th was.

And personally speaking, Ellen as the 5th makes complete sense. It's been known before the last episode that the 5th was someone not in the fleet, so obvious choices like Adama, Roslin etc are immediately out the window. Perhaps some are disappointed that it's alcoholic nymph Ellen, but that could have been a whole other side to her, a facade, and if she ever comes back, we could have a complete character overhaul.

And Dee

I thought it was wonderfully handled. After everything she lost (her entirely family, her planet, her marriage) she has placed everything she was in Earth and her religion. She then lost those - no hope, religion shattered. She had nothing. She came unravelled in the Raptor on the way back - a complete psychotic break. She then took control of her life long enough to give herself one last happy day, to put Lee on the right track - choosing the terms upon which someone with nothing left to go out on. I thought it was brilliantly done, and scarily similar to how these things can happen in real life.