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The PIEHOLE => H!P News and Releases => Topic started by: tiny on October 01, 2007, 10:39:20 AM
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Morning Musume 35th single 「 (みかん(仮) 」 [Mikan (temporary title)]
11/21 on sale
Limited edition 1 (with DVD): EPCE-5514/15 1,680 yen
Limited edition 2: EPCE-5516 1,260 yen
Regular edition: EPCE-5517 1,050 yen
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5514
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5516
http://www.netdirect.co.jp/search/ISSSchDetail.asp?ISBN=EPCE5517
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Nice..I wonder what kind its gonna be
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YAY new single XD
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This is the news I've been wanting to hear. It's nice to hear the likes of MK and OG are releasing stuff but this is what really matters to me. Can't wait.
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Yay...new single !!
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why Tsunku didn't put this single in the "Complete Album" and the Concert ??
perhaps ... record delays ???
anyway, YAY
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why Tsunku didn't put this single in the "Complete Album" and the Concert ??
perhaps ... record delays ???
anyway, YAY
Maybe because he wants to send the message again, as he and Takahashi did on their comments about the "All Singles Complete" album, that the album is a celebration of MM in the last 10 years, but that it is a new MM from now on? What better way than to have a new single APART from the compilation?
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that's true ~ The New Era .....
I think Tsunku is gonna experiment on this singles (maybe also the next single ..... perhaps even the next audition ......)
can't wait for preview ~ I'm curious about the style ~
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I hope it is a good single, so they can keep their "Top 5" Oricon record. On the same date, there are releases by EXILE, TOKIO, Otsuka Ai and a new song from らき☆すた (Lucky Star), probably by Aya Hirano, so.... this single better be good :)
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why Tsunku didn't put this single in the "Complete Album" and the Concert ??
perhaps ... record delays ???
anyway, YAY
he probably didnt wanna confuse the 35th track on the album "Hello to You" with this 35th single. cant have two 35s ya know.
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shiawase! new single! i wanna hear it!
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More Eri/JJ&LL/Risa
Less Takahashi
Don't really mean it, but being the first one to say it makes me feel special xD
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MORE ERI, RISA, MITTSI AND JUNJUN FOR THE PEOPLE, I want them to be the lead and no Koharu please, ok a little but not much XD
For some reason I want a song like Koi ING or an upbeat song like Go girl och Koko Ni Iruzee. But if the song is like Koi ING I want an Eri lead :heart:
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^I felt that ONSA was similar to go girl koi no victory.. so I think this one will be different.
11/21.. damn, my cdjapan coupon has expired by then :(
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Yay for a new single! I've been waiting for this annoucement so much! I can't wait to see what comes of this. :heart:
I hope it's something fairly upbeat, and all the less used girls will have some time to shine.
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Ahh yes, a new MM single always makes me happy. Fast, slow, I luvs um all :D
More girls....less feathers this time though :P
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More LL , please! Let's prove to the people she can sing! (yeah...for those who haven't heard more than the Onna ni Shachi Are lines she had.. :-\)
Yay for a new one~
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More girls....less feathers this time though :P
QFT!
I've finally come to terms that if I really like a member, I'll rarely get to hear them sing, so I'm just going to agree with ggliff on this one. :lol: I'm just excited to have a new single for the new Morning Musume!
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MORE TAKAHASHI, LESS EVERYONE ELSE
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MORE TAKAHASHI, LESS EVERYONE ELSE
if you want more Ai than in the last single then listen to her solo "yume kara samete" XD
oh well... if this is the new single then hello to you is only a new song for the compilation right? OK i hope this single sound good.
BTW we need more KAmei and less Koharu
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MORE TAKAHASHI, LESS EVERYONE ELSE
reverse psychology? i'm in.
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I really really hope that this will be Kamei's lead single! So far almost all the members have been lead in a single except kamei and jun and lin but they are new! Please Tsunku let KAMEI SING!! :angry: I am hoping for like a slower song something like "As for one day" because the last 3 singles have been very fast and upbeat its time for something calming and slow.
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Well, if it's a slow song, it really have to be a good song, like koi ING (or ayaya's), but if it isn't, I want the next Shabondama. 6th gen returns :heart:
But I agree with "kamei's lead"( and "risa's lead sounds good to me too), please less Reina, less Koha, less Ai-chan and more Aika, Junjun and Linlin, they need to prove what they can do.
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I demand a Junjun and Linlin-lead song! I've liked them a lot, but finally seeing more of them in action in the Shin Members concert made my love for them grow EXPONENTIALLY. I'm so excited for this, though, all of their singles this year have been absolute win.
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Awesome, new MM!!!
Lots of Kamei and 8th gens please ^-^
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More Aika. :heart:
Otsuka Ai
Ah, so we meet Otsuka Ai again...
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I wonder if it'll be a slow-ish song because it's close to the holidays (I kind of hope so, I liked Aruiteru :-X)
P.S: Because I feel the need to follow the trend - MORE KOHARU
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a song with a fruit in the title? plus it's a chinese fruit! yeah!! XD
less koharu, more everyone else :)
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When does their tour end? We might get this song replaced with another midway through the tour or it'll debut at the Winter concert. -___-
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I think it's funny that everyone on here is like 'more of this or that person' ~ MM is a GROUP!!
I say more of everyone getting a chance to be heard! :P
Takahashi does WAYYY too much dominating, imho....
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^and because is a group, we need all the members to sign more than a line, not just Taka :lol:
XD
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moar eri!!!!!!!!!!
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^very indeed!!!!!!!!! i want something like...idk, kanashimi XD
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I wouldn't mind another type of kanashimi myself.
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Hell yea! I was just about to say "I want another Kanashimi!" or something slowish and uplifting, like Nanimo Iwazu ni, EGAO, Aruiteru, etc. I like optimistic Musumes or badass Musumes!
And I am fine with Koharu as a Rika-ish lead, meaning in the center and maybe a monologue (we haven't had a monologue in a while! how about one?) as long as she doesn't sing that much. Same with Sayu.
Or a JunJun/LinLin monologue would be nice. Maybe in Mandarin?
More singing from JJ/LL, Eri, and Reina! Takahashi and Risa are both strong singers too.
I want less singing from Aika though.
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Yay! I don't care who's lead, I don't care which kind of song it is, as long as it has a lot of publicity on TV! Yay for the new Momusu! :wub:
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Mikan is a sweet fruit right.. so that could mean the song is sweet with slow/mid tempo.. lol, I love wild speculations :P
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Yay! I don't care who's lead, I don't care which kind of song it is, as long as it has a lot of publicity on TV! Yay for the new Momusu! :wub:
QFT. I couldn't give a shit who's lead or whatever as long as the song is good and does well.
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:w00t: :w00t: :w00t:new single!!! omg! omg! omg! omg! omg! omg! omg! *faints* :banghead:
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Yay! I don't care who's lead, I don't care which kind of song it is, as long as it has a lot of publicity on TV! Yay for the new Momusu! :wub:
QFT. I couldn't give a shit who's lead or whatever as long as the song is good and does well.
couldn't agree more ^_^ so happy to hear this news :D
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The only explanation for such an anticipated single is that they expect the BEST to put them on the spotlight again. I doubt it, but there you go. Mikan sound like an appealing tittle, cute sounding and easy to remember. Since I've reached the point where I care more about the music rather than the girls themselves (only Takahashi and Eri's voices say something to my taste) I hope they put Daichi in charge of the a-side (at last) so this can turn into a new Go Girl. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind a new Shabondama or AFOD. Time will tell.
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Dear Tsunku,
Another AS FOR ONE DAY or Do it! Now would be nice.
Thank you,
Masabi
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I want less singing from Aika though.
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But I do agree though, more monologues. Maybe even two! Or... the whole song!?
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CDJapan has put up pre-order links and descriptions.
Limited A
Limited edition type A includes bonus DVD with an alternate music video for "Mikan," and one original photo card chosen randomly from nine member cards and one special card.
Limited B
Limited edition type B includes special package, booklet, and one original photo card chosen randomly from nine member cards and one special card.
Regular
Bonus Extra (included while First Press is still available): a photo card
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MONOLOGUE! ERI!
please :cry:
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one original photo card chosen randomly from nine member cards ?!
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We can trade cards later if we don't get our favorite :P
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I'm gonna order the two ltd ed, hope for the special card and the Risa one :D
But with my luck, I'll probably get 2 koharus :p
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i'm totally in for an Eri-lead single, i think she's way overdue for a lead single, given the fact that she never got one, exactly. she got a pretty cute voice too and i surely wouldn't mind hearing it all the time. i also would like to hear more of the other member voices too and not just Ai-chan, no offense to her, i like her and she's got a great voice. it's just there are 8 other people in the group, use them more for heaven's sake. i like to see more of them being active other than being just backup dancers and vocal.
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I'm gonna order the two ltd ed, hope for the special card and the Risa one :D
But with my luck, I'll probably get 2 koharus :p
Then give me ONE of them!! hahahha jk =D
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Usually I'm not that exited, but for some reason I really want to hear this single :)
How long before a release do the radio rips or previews get out usually?
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This is the one thing I hate about getting news early; it means I havr to wait ages before I ever actually get to hear the song. Really looking forward to this one, I'm guessing we won't have a radio rip for at least a couple of weeks yet.
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Ya I hate the waiting I really want to hear it!! I don't care who leads I just wanna hear!! I wonder why they aren't performing this song at their Fall Concert? I had a dream that I saw the PV for this song and they all were eating oranges and singing under a tree.They had on pink dresses with white head bands and the song sounded like aruiteru. I hope Bon kyu Bon kyu bomb is the c/w song I love that song! :heart:
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I love the name Mikan and I hope they stick with it. Tsunku sometimes tries too hard picking cool sounding English names for songs but Mikan is so short, cute and orangey :)
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...but Mikan is so short, cute and orangey :)
I see what you did there. :D
Hoping for a winner this time around, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
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I'm hoping for an up-beat again. I wouldn't mind if they kept the title.
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Up-Front now have confirmed the title "みかん" (Mikan). (http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_46/index.html)
Because the title is written in hiragana it can have several meanings:
- 蜜柑 = mandarin
- 未刊 = unpublished
- 未完 = incomplete; unfinished.
(all read the same "mikan")
I particularly like the last one. I like to believe it implies Morning Musume are here to stay for quite some time. They will not be stopping, they are unfinished.
Maybe I'm reading to much into it, but with Tsunku you never know. :)
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Up-Front now have confirmed the title "みかん" (Mikan). (http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_46/index.html)
Because the title is written in hiragana it can have several meanings:
- 蜜柑 = mandarin
- 未刊 = unpublished
- 未完 = incomplete; unfinished.
(all read the same "mikan")
I particularly like the last one. I like to believe it implies Morning Musume are here to stay for quite some time. They will not be stopping, they are unfinished.
Maybe I'm reading to much into it, but with Tsunku you never know. :)
I like the "we're not finished yet" interpretation better than the mandarin one (it makes more sense that way)
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^ True, does makea lot more sense. Which probably means Tsunku intended it to be the "mandarin" translation...
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I'm sure by 'mandarin' he meant 'tanagerine', not the Mandarin language ;) And I'm guessing that's the intednded meaning.
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I'm sure by 'mandarin' he meant 'tanagerine', not the Mandarin language ;) And I'm guessing that's the intednded meaning.
It was already established in the thread that MIKAN means mandarin orange and not the mandarin language. And this is what Tsunku does, he uses words that have so many different meanings, we'll have to wait for the lyrics to see what he meant either the fruit (not sure what it represents), or the unfinished thing
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I think unfinished thing is really probable after their release of All Singles Complete Album. :)
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Album : The old MM is Complete !!
Single : The new MM is still incomplete !! Still got many unfinished business !!!
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The unfinished interpretation sure sounds better than the unpublished one xD
But I prefer the mandarin orange one, it sounds like something funny and catchy. The unfinished one sounds fine to me too, though.
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Hello, I'm reyfer niece. My uncle say to put this here.
Hi. it's 11pm here in Tokyo. I asked my niece to copy and paste this e-mail for the forum. Seems like the meaning of MIKAN is not mandarin orange, but judging from the lyrics I heard from a fan recording, the meaning is unfinished, like I suspected. The lyrics I could hear clearly make constant reference to "one more chance", so unfinished is what fits the description. Will let you know tomorrow after the concert.
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^Did they already premiere the song at their concert? About time!
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Morning Musume - Mikan (Fan Recording Rip 07-10-20 Tokyo Day) (http://www.mediafire.com/?a1yxmgudggy)
(thanks to Zaxx@JPM)
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^Thanks!
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Morning Musume - Mikan (Fan Recording Rip 07-10-20 Tokyo Day) (http://www.mediafire.com/?a1yxmgudggy)
(thanks to Zaxx@JPM)
Thanks!
I like it! The chorus is catchy and I think the studio version will sound great. I didn't like the opening though.
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Thanks for the rip Nouciel! I like it so far. Can't wait for a better quality version!
I can not stop listening to this song! A month seems so far away...
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Thanks a ton!
So far it sounds AWESOME. I can not WAIT for this to come out! :w00t: :w00t: :w00t:
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Thanks a lot for posting the rip :D
Awesome, super upbeat, very catchy, can't wait to see the dance for this!
Edit
converted to mp3
http://www.mediafire.com/?2ud1szgijgd
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the more I listen the better it gets, I just want to dance around the room!!
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Thanks for the rip and mp3 version XD
This song is nothing like I expected :lol: I expected a christmas, winter type, aruiteru, sweet song.. However, I do love what I'm hearing! Can't wait for it to come out!!
I'd like to preorder, but I want to see the covers first :P
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WOW! I didn't except this either! I thought it was going to be a boring ballad but boy was I wrong! I love mikan so much!! I love the "One more chance!" part its so touching! :heart: I can't really hear who gets the leads until the end I hear Ai and Reina but the song is so catchy and fun! Puts you in a good mood :)
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:shocked: Thanks a lot for the rip! Thats looks like it's gonna be a good single! I'm glad! :wub:
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So far, I really like this song! Sounds fun, and the distribution of lines seems to be more fair :love:
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http://www.mediafire.com/?cvwaezkmtnu Reina's Mic Recording :) You can hear the song a little bit better! Enjoy everyone :heart:
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http://www.mediafire.com/?cvwaezkmtnu Reina's Mic Recording :) You can hear the song a little bit better! Enjoy everyone :heart:
Where you guys find those mic recordings? :cry:
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^Share or japanese uploader sites! :D
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Gimme the links, please :love:
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Hello, I am reyfer niece. My uncle send this after the other message, but I forget to put it here. I am sorry. Here is the message:
Hi there. I don't know if you got the Mikan fan recording, but a friend of mine here (a wota) gave me these, hope you enjoy. These are mic recordings from Mikan's performance:
Aichan http://www.sendspace.com/file/al5gxo
Gaki-san http://www.sendspace.com/file/zlf5j8
Eri http://www.sendspace.com/file/uecsec
Sayu http://www.sendspace.com/file/enqshi
Reina http://www.sendspace.com/file/pkgglp
Koharu http://www.sendspace.com/file/ysojgs
Aika http://www.sendspace.com/file/jt54ob
And finally, and this is the genius of it, these guys put all those together to make this composite http://www.sendspace.com/file/91d62o
Tomorrow I will be writing directly to you after the concert (got ticket for the noon performance)
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^reyfer's neice.. you kick ass! But no panda mic recordings? T_T
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Holy Sweetness! Reyfer and his niece, you guys are awesome! And your wota friend as well! *fires off virtual fireworks into the air in celebration~!*
Now this is a major deal!
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Ok I listened to all of the mic recordings and I'm a little suspicious. The audio sounds live, but when they sing group parts, it sounds like it's lipsynced because they get of breath easily. I dunno.. something I obvserved.
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Sorry, my name is Loray. I am reyfer niece. I think I can help with you think it is lipsinc? I don't speak english good, so sorry for mistakes. I sing in school with chorus, and when all sing you not hear errors, but if you listen one by one, you hear error. All voice together in harmony help hide error. Sorry for my english, hope you understand.
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Ok I listened to all of the mic recordings and I'm a little suspicious. The audio sounds live, but when they sing group parts, it sounds like it's lipsynced because they get of breath easily. I dunno.. something I obvserved.
I noticed them getting out breath easily on the chorus, too. I guess the dance must be crazy energetic. Poor Sayu sounded like she was about to have an asthma attack. But I <3ed her mic recording. (Thanks for the share!)
But yeah, I'd totally love to hear Jun Jun and Lin Lin's.
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Thanks for the mic recordings :w00t: hopefully JunJun and Linlin ones will pop up too <3
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Thanks for the recordings. I really enjoyed them. :oops: Reina, keep trying! I didn't realise her voice is kinda quiet like she said in 2005. Eri impressed me a lot. Great job!
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Eh? I don't really the song .. breaking the streak from The Manpower!!! which is really sad.
There have been way too many energetic songs, it was time for a ballad and this definitely isn't ballad
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Thanks for the individual recordings, really interesting!
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After listening to Mikan like non stop :P I love it but I wanted to know who sings at 2:20? I can't really hear that part it sounds to low. I want to say Eri or LinLin but I don't know if anyone knows please tell me :P
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^It's probably Linlin (or even Junjun?), since I don't hear it from any of the mic recordings.
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Oh wow loving Mikan!!! :o
I may have to look into buying it!
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I'm wearing my sad face after listening to that performance. But I guess the song will sound much better with a polished and edited studio voice. We'll see e_e
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Hey, according the H!P Chinese Site, the Chinese name of this single is 橘子 (Mandarin Orange) !!!!!
I think Tsunku is playing with the name !!!!!!
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^ Mikan IS Japanese for "Mandarin Orange". :D
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Heh, Mandarin Orange... A little too early for Chinese New Year, don't you think Tsunku? XD
I've yet to listen to the recordings, since it's still Dloading. Thanks for sharing though :)
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thanks for the recording! hmm... I like it so far! can't wait to see the dance.. from how it sounds the dance must be very energetic!
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It makes me think of the type of song that ends up on a b-side but is completely worthy of being an actual single itself!
can't wait for lyrics, i keep wanting to sing along
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If the covers and pv are decent this could go very high in the charts.. anyone know what the main competition is when the single is released? ONSA was only defeated by Ai, so MM can take on the big names for sure :)
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If the covers and pv are decent this could go very high in the charts.. anyone know what the main competition is when the single is released? ONSA was only defeated by Ai, so MM can take on the big names for sure :)
On the same date, there are releases by KAT-TUN, EXILE, TOKIO, LOVE (Otsuka Ai) and a new らき☆すた (Lucky Star) single.
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Oh God, KAT-TUN. I wish the best of luck to Momusu!
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Yeah, that's gonna be some rough competition. :yep:
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Well, I know they can beat Lucky Star and TOKIO, and Otsuka Ai does not sell well as LOVE, so that leaves EXILE and KAT-TUN. Seriously, it will be almost impossible to beat KAT-TUN, so I go for #2. I just hope they can keep their "Top 5" record.
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Seriously, it will be almost impossible to beat KAT-TUN, so I go for #2. I just hope they can keep their "Top 5" record.
*crying* >_<""
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Yah, it's gonna be impossible to beat KAT-TUN :-\ But i'm hoping for a weekly #2~ :D
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Here (http://"http://www.mediafire.com/?9dxeyymgytt")'s the radio rip of MoMusu's new single, courtesy of lovemusic and Ko-chan at JPM.
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Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?9dxeyymgytt)'s the radio rip of MoMusu's new single, courtesy of lovemusic and Ko-chan at JPM.
Now with fixed url. :usagiii:
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I know I have said this before but Mikan is AMAZING! It really feels like a Morning Musume song to me. The past singles were really awesome but it didn't feel like Musume to me. I like when they all sing together and really express their emotions vocally. I get a happy feeling whenever I listen to Mikan and I love that! :wub: I knew Jun and Lin wouldn't get a big part because after all it is only their 2nd single so it probably be a while till we hear them as actual leads. I am so excited to see the PV and covers :heart:
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Still don't like it after hearing the real thing instead of the strung together live version. Sounds like a generic anime opening theme song :lol:
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^it does have a kind of anime theme song vibe to it here and there, but that's no prob for me.
I still love it XD can't wait for the covers. Thanks for the radio rip.
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I swear I will never understand why people use the words "anime song" as something negative. Some of the biggest names in japanese music have made anime songs (L'Arc~en~Ciel, Utada, Nanase Aikawa, etc...). Some of the greatest names in japanese music ASK for the chance to make songs for popular animes. I guess the difference is that in Japan anime is not seen as something only for kids.
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hmm, its ok, not feeling it as much, maybe that might change when I see a visual :P
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I swear I will never understand why people use the words "anime song" as something negative. Some of the biggest names in japanese music have made anime songs (L'Arc~en~Ciel, Utada, Nanase Aikawa, etc...). Some of the greatest names in japanese music ASK for the chance to make songs for popular animes. I guess the difference is that in Japan anime is not seen as something only for kids.
I didn't say "I don't like this song BECAUSE it sounds like an anime opening theme song". I said I don't like the song, and remarked how it sounded like a typical anime opening theme song. Even though I don't like this song, some of my favorite songs are used as the opening themes to animes. :yep:
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Sorry, it is just that sometimes we see the term "anime song" used as equal to "childish" or "not good". And some before in this thread and in some other forums have made that comparison.
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Sorry, it is just that sometimes we see the term "anime song" used as equal to "childish" or "not good". And some before in this thread and in some other forums have made that comparison.
Theme songs are picked because they're the creme of the crop. The people behind a drama or anime want you to think of their show everytime you hear that song. I can't listen to FLOW without thinking of Naruto, or hear "Can you keep a secret?" from Utada Hikaru without thinking instantly of Hero, so I guess the marketing worked. :lol:
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If the covers and pv are decent this could go very high in the charts.. anyone know what the main competition is when the single is released? ONSA was only defeated by Ai, so MM can take on the big names for sure :)
A full list was posted here (http://junjou.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/momusu-new-single-mikan-unveiled/) few days ago. It'll be a tough day.
I don't want to discourage the hopes of many but the last three singles (all this year) of EXILE have sold between 84 and 95K on first week. So a #2 is high unlikely. TOKIO sells on first week as much as MoMusu has been doing lately. So the battle will probably be for #3, unless I miss some other big name that could beat MoMusu as well.
Mikan is not appealing to me at all. Not even after listening the radio rip. This could change within the weeks, however. After a year I finally appreciate Aruiteru XD
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Hmm, Mikan doesn't sound like anything special to me, but it does have some nice parts. I just hope they keep their Top 5 record :-\
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mmm the single is... don´t know is not like the last 3 who just hit me at the first try ^^. Well the competition is big but i guess that a top 5 at first week with peaks of 2 one of the days can be possible.
pd: aruiteru is good but too much shalalala ^^U
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I couldn't say much with concert recordings but with the radio rip, it does sound like anime music in the beginning. Or some type of theme music. I like how it's upbeat, great for dancing in concerts. I'm not so sure about it being good to just listen to. It sounds more like a participation or visual song.
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Gah!
I hate to ask this, but could someone re-up the radio rip? For some reason mediafire refuses to work me. :banghead:
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Gah!
I hate to ask this, but could someone re-up the radio rip? For some reason mediafire refuses to work me. :banghead:
Sendspace Link: Morning Musume - Mikan (Radio Rip) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/fkc9lr)
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Gah!
I hate to ask this, but could someone re-up the radio rip? For some reason mediafire refuses to work me. :banghead:
Sendspace Link: Morning Musume - Mikan (Radio Rip) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/fkc9lr)
You are so my hero (for this and upping the T & C stuff which I'm about to get)! :inlove:
So, I still totally love this song. It's so catchy and just what I wanted to hear from Momusu. Even the cheesy guitar solo (which seems to be frequent) wasn't horrid! AND OH MY GOSH IS THAT SAYUMI I HEAR!? :heart: I can not wait for this to be released!
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Up-Front Works have posted the track listing on the official discography page.
1. みかん
2. ボンキュ！ボンキュ！BOMB GIRL
3. みかん(Instrumental)
Romaji:
1. Mikan
2. Bonkyu! Bonkyu! BOMB GIRL
3. Mikan (Instrumental)
http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_46/
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Bonkyu! Bonkyu! BOMB GIRL !?
I knew it !!!!!!!!! just like Morning Curry XD
preview preview I want preview :heart: ~~~~~~~~
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oo thanks for the radio rip, cant wait till i listen to it...
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energetic song! I think they need a single like this after a string of serious toned songs.
But still too much of AiT. She should focus more on her leader role and leave the singing to the rest.
next single a ballad please.
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Yeah, I haven't been writing about this release yet but I LOVE IT! The best single since forever for MM!
All their latest have been so great in diffrent ways
First Aruiteru which is a calm song but perfect for MM, then Egao YES Nude which has a little old style thing in it which makes it awesome! Kanashimi Twilight was the first REAL poprock song, sooo great. Onna ni Sachi Are an advanced masterpiece of greatness. The few singles before that was good but not GREAT like these have been.
And Mikan is simple in a way, sure, but I think it's just what MM needed now, a little simpler although fun song. GO MORNING MUSUME! :mon geek:
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First Aruiteru which is a calm song but perfect for MM, then Egao YES Nude which has a little old style thing in it which makes it awesome! Kanashimi Twilight was the first REAL poprock song, sooo great. Onna ni Sachi Are an advanced masterpiece of greatness. The few singles before that was good but not GREAT like these have been.
I haven´t heard Mikan yet!! but I agree with Anton_91 about their latest singles!!
I don´t like to listen radio rips!! I prefer wait for the PV!! :lol:
and I´m looking forward to see it!! :w00t:
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There's no single V announced yet right? I'm sure there'll be one..
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Bonkyu! Bonkyu! BOMB GIRL !?
I knew it !!!!!!!!! just like Morning Curry XD
preview preview I want preview :heart: ~~~~~~~~
I thought the exact same thing!! :lol: I totally can't wait to hear it!
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îsn´t that the theme song for this last concerts with v-u-den? or it´s just a coincidence... no way, with tsunku coincidences never work
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îsn´t that the theme song for this last concerts with v-u-den? or it´s just a coincidence... no way, with tsunku coincidences never work
Yes, it is the opening song for the concert tour, and the tour is also named "Bonkyu Bonkyu BOMB"
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After all the meaning of mikan is "mandarin".
Tsunku has some weird description of it which includes a TV, kotatsu and mandarin. :lol: The title is supposed to describe the song as something "natural", like a mandarin, and not manufactured like a kotatsu or TV.
Source: GAKI KAME
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Meh! I really dislike the song. I'm starting to think Tsunku has a mental deficiency.
This sounds exactly like an anime theme. He obviously thinks that producing something that sounds like a Koharu Kusumi solo song will somehow magically make it sell as much as Koharu.
He doesn't realize that the main reason that Koharu is selling so much is simply because she's connected to the anime. That's all. What's going to happen is that this is going to sell as much (or as least) as other Morning Musume singles, if not less, and then he's realize the err of his ways.
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Just checked it on on youtube and I ain't gonna be rash with my judgements. I don't instantly love it like I did with the Kanashimi Twilight but then I wasn't too keen on Onna ni Sachi Are until I'd listened to it a good number of times so hopefully this will grow on me too. I certainly don't dislike it but it ain't amazing either, I reckon if I stuck it on iTunes now it'd get 3 stars lol.
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This song would really rock more if it had a real orchestra instead of the keyboard imitation of it. But meh, it's good enough already so...
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Reading Masabi's post, a newbie could actually believe that Koharu outsells MM :) :) :)
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just in case anyone want this
Mikan (Gaki-Kame radio rip)
http://www.mediafire.com/?8exdzzm59w2
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^Thanks! Best quality I've heared so far XD
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Thank you Reanimation :heart: I agree best quality!!! I FREAKING LOVE THIS SONGGGGGGGGGG OMG!!!!!! I LOVE IT
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Reading Masabi's post, a newbie could actually believe that Koharu outsells MM :) :) :)
you're kidding right
balalaika [72,709] vs any single later than joshi kashimashi monogatari besides Iroppoi Jirettai
happy [57,278] vs aruiteru [55,694] or egao yes nude [53,047] or sexy boy [48,667] or chokkan 2 [54,428]
LOLOLOLOLOLOLLLllll
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Okay, I know Kirari sells (99% to kids, and judging from the 15 kids I asked, most of them don't even know Kusumi Koharu, they're buying Kirari's songs). The moment she gets those numbers with a single as Kusumi Koharu, not related to Kirari, then you can LOLLOLLOL me all you want. :)
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^So true :lol:
I still don't feel the song but I can't say it's bad~ It sounds better than I tought XD
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this single may become the only MM single I don't have
I don't know .... maybe the PV will help XD
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^ yeah the PV always makes me like the song better, I guess I'm a visual person
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Meh! I really dislike the song. I'm starting to think Tsunku has a mental deficiency.
This sounds exactly like an anime theme. He obviously thinks that producing something that sounds like a Koharu Kusumi solo song will somehow magically make it sell as much as Koharu.
He doesn't realize that the main reason that Koharu is selling so much is simply because she's connected to the anime. That's all. What's going to happen is that this is going to sell as much (or as least) as other Morning Musume singles, if not less, and then he's realize the err of his ways.
I agree with you, but at least he has try. If it's not this, it'll be that... whatever. :)
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Cover from the UFW discography page:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/mikan_small.jpg)
http://www.up-front-works.jp/discography/zetima/29/s_46/
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..must... see.... bigger .. versions..
The right (red) one if the regular version, right? That one looks the coolest at first glance. I hope the single V (if there'll be one) will look like the reg. version cover.
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For me, this is the best H!P cover ever, I really like the brightness and colourfulness of limited covers. I normally order limited B but limited A's cover is always the best of all.
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Oh man, I LOVE the covers. Can't WAIT to see bigger versions. This single just keeps getting better and better! I agree with misugi, too... the bright colors are awesome!
The only thing I'm not digging is Koha's dress. D:
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They really need to hire another digital artist for the MoMusu singles. Hand it over to this guy:
(http://xs220.xs.to/xs220/07442/epbe5270.jpg)
Okay, I know Kirari sells (99% to kids, and judging from the 15 kids I asked, most of them don't even know Kusumi Koharu, they're buying Kirari's songs)
You went through the trouble of asking 15 random kids just to get your point through?
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Okay, I know Kirari sells (99% to kids, and judging from the 15 kids I asked, most of them don't even know Kusumi Koharu, they're buying Kirari's songs)
You went through the trouble of asking 15 random kids just to get your point through?
Nope, I happened to be in a music shop and saw some kids buying Kirari's CDs, so I asked them if they liked Koharu, they looked at me in a strange way (I thought it was because they were scared a gaijin was talking to them), but they all asked who Koharu was, I pointed to the CDs and they told me that was Kirari, so I asked other kids the next day just to see if they knew who Koharu was. Same answer :)
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^Koharu should better stay in Kirarinchan mode then~ :lol:
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I normally order limited B but limited A's cover is always the best of all.
Same here~ But if the PV is win, I'm getting A :wub: I can't wait to see bigger versions!
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The covers are very nice! I love their clothes and Aika looks so cute in that party hat :lol: I hope that the pv will be exciting like the covers! I am thinking of like a big Morning Musume party for the pv with ballons and stuff! Does anyone know that has been to the Bon kyu bomb concert what the dance for Mikan is like? Please tell us!
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wow I want to buy the single just from looking at the cover! I hope the pv will look this bright and happy!
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just a question, who is their rivals in the upcoming battle taking place on 11/21?
[bgcolor=#1d0000](i'm referring to the new releases battle on Oricon charts, if u don't get it...)[/bgcolor]
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just a question, who is their rivals in the upcoming battle taking place on 11/21?
[bgcolor=#1d0000](i'm referring to the new releases battle on Oricon charts, if u don't get it...)[/bgcolor]
As already answered a few pages back, on the same date, there are releases by KAT-TUN, EXILE, TOKIO, LOVE (Otsuka Ai) and a new らき☆すた (Lucky Star) single. Full list of releases for that day here (http://junjou.wordpress.com/2007/10/20/momusu-new-single-mikan-unveiled/)
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thanks, reyfer, for the info...
so they're battling against Otsuka Ai again... and also up against EXILE, KAT-TUN, and TOKIO among others. WOW, what a competitive line-up.
Hope Mikan goes to the top and beat them all down...
btw, though i don't think this is the place to talk about this, but having 2 Johnny's group going against each other is kinda interesting...
and another thing, can't UFA choose a better release date without such tough competition? i believe (don't wanna jinx it though) that MoMusu could rank in the top 10 definitely, even in the top 5, but it'll be difficult to be in the top 3.
But no matter what..... Go! Go! MoMusu~! Ganbare ne~! aim for #1!
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thanks, reyfer, for the info...
so they're battling against Otsuka Ai again... and also up against EXILE, KAT-TUN, and TOKIO among others. WOW, what a competitive line-up.
Hope Mikan goes to the top and beat them all down...
btw, though i don't think this is the place to talk about this, but having 2 Johnny's group going against each other is kinda interesting...
and another thing, can't UFA choose a better release date without such tough competition? i believe (don't wanna jinx it though) that MoMusu could rank in the top 10 definitely, even in the top 5, but it'll be difficult to be in the top 3.
But no matter what..... Go! Go! MoMusu~! Ganbare ne~! aim for #1!
Well, as said before, Otsuka Ai doesn't sell well when singing as LOVE (and that's the single that comes out that day, a LOVE single), and TOKIO is not selling well lately, so that leaves EXILE and KAT-TUN. I guess at least they will keep their TOP 5 record (every single by MM has been on the TOP 5, the most by any female group).
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Morning Coffee was 6, but since then every single has been top 5.
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TOKIO's release was actually pushed to 11/28.
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Morning Coffee was 6, but since then every single has been top 5.
That's the answer to the question i was just gonna ask... thanks for answer, AngelCakes.
TOKIO's release was actually pushed to 11/28.
I guess that's one less competition for MoMusu. But that's still leave 3 major competitors, EXILE, KAT-TUN and LOVE(Otsuka Ai), along with other artists.
i also just realize that 11/21 falls on a Wednesday. why would they release on a Wednesday, in the middle of the week? wouldn't releasing on a Tuesday or Monday may be better for chance of better sales?
just some random questions...
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EXILE is going to be tough to beat, thats all i can say. >_>
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Releases are always on a Wednesday, officially anyway. Usually the singles start selling in the stores on the Tuesday, hence the first daily rankings for that day. Btw, for the weekly charts the week starts on Monday, so they're missing only day. This doesn't effect the weekly charts very much usually.
When the Morning Musume single was announced many other releases were already known, including TOKIO's (which is now moved), but KAT-TUN's release was announced after that.
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When the Morning Musume single was announced many other releases were already known, including TOKIO's (which is now moved), but KAT-TUN's release was announced after that.
Yes. In fact, KAT-TUN's single was originally announced for December, and they changed date two days after MM's announcement
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In fact, KAT-TUN's single was originally announced for December, and they changed date two days after MM's announcement
>_<"" damnit .......
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Well I damn well hope they make it to the top this week, this definately ain't my fave MM single by a long way but the competition they have...ergh. I can't stand KAT-TUN and and EXILE, whereas Otsuka Ai has gone to shit in the past year.
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KAT-TUN gonna knocks heads off.
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I think that because of all the MM 10th anniversary boxes they've been releasing, the Mikan sales will be somewhat lower because of it. I was gonna buy it, but I'd rather have the MM all videoclips box.. I have to be carefull with spending money, so I won't get both. It could be the same for some other people.
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KAT-TUN are going to wipe the floor. MM honestly don't stand a chance against them. Last year they got 1# from all singles in the entire year with their debut single, their second got something like #5 over the entire year too... and their third was in the top fifteen somewhere, only because it has only been relased a few weeks before the Oricon counted to singles for the yearly charts. Their concerts sell out so quickly, their members are everywhere on television.. I hate to say it, but MM are royally screwed.
DAMN YOU JOHNNY. I bet money he changed the date on purpose, just to spite Tsunku.
That's probably why JE pushed Tokio's forward, because to be honest KAT-TUN is currently much more popular than Tokio.
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KAT-TUN are going to wipe the floor. MM honestly don't stand a chance against them. Last year they got 1# from all singles in the entire year with their debut single, their second got something like #5 over the entire year too... and their third was in the top fifteen somewhere, only because it has only been relased a few weeks before the Oricon counted to singles for the yearly charts. Their concerts sell out so quickly, their members are everywhere on television.. I hate to say it, but MM are royally screwed.
DAMN YOU JOHNNY. I bet money he changed the date on purpose, just to spite Tsunku.
That's probably why JE pushed Tokio's forward, because to be honest KAT-TUN is currently much more popular than Tokio.
Yep. Changing the release date two days after is cheap. I remember, maybe a year or two ago, when H!P and maybe Avex (or JE) kept constantly changing the release dates one after another LOL I guess H!P doesn't care by now, they know they have a loyal fanbase and it's not like they're trying to go beyond it, so even if all JE would release that day, I'm pretty sure MM would get their 50K.
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from the list of things, it sounds like most entertainment companys are out to get each other and pitting their artists against each other.
i did remember reading somewhere on JPH!P forums that some big labels, i.e. johnny's and AVEX mostly target H!P/UFA in the past by waiting for UFA to announce their release date and then announce theirs to be release on the same day...
That some rivalry between them and UFA.
something i like to mention though.... Most of the singles from AVEX and Johnny's released around the same time as H!P are mostly tied-up to CMs, Doramas, etc. while MM doesn't have tie-up singles, from what i know. yet they were still able to be ranked with the top 10, even in the top 5. but on the other hand, i guess without the tie-up, that why they sell less compared to others...
i dunno if that's consider a good or bad thing.... :?
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Since I normally order MM singles from YesAsia and PlayAsia, I'm wondering will the sales from these online shop be included into oricon chart. :?
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from what I know if you order from amazon.jp it will still count, but Yesasia is not counted
correct me if I'm wrong though..
don't they have a PV yet? can't wait for it...
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KAT-TUN are going to wipe the floor.
REALLY?? My room needs some serious cleaning up, if they could come over it'd be really cool.
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(Yeah bad joke, sorry)
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Limited edition covers, larger:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_epce5514.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/epce5514.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_epce5516.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/epce5516.jpg)
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(click for bigger)
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Limited edition covers, larger:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_epce5514.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/epce5514.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_epce5516.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/epce5516.jpg)
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(click for bigger)
Cute! Reminds me of la New Year's party!
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(http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/2010/mrningtsujolo7.jpg)
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/epce5516.jpg
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THIS IS WIN :wub: A bit nostalgic, too.
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LinLin looks okay but JunJun's face looks so blank. Right after Koharu & aika came in they adapted fast to being idols but junjun needs work.
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Aika :heart: :heart: :heart:
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Mikan PV will air on M-ON at 24:00
http://www.helloproject.com/newslist/mikan_0711071717.html
about 6 hours from now.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=248
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Mikan PV.
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8652/sapphire839gq8.th.jpg) (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sapphire839gq8.jpg)
http://www.dohhhup.com/movie/tuZxVRW18Pudy01F6XVLE5F8Q572wAbP/view.php
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Good enough XD
Dancing is cool, outfits are ok.. the baby pictures are fun. Big mikan in the back :)
Yeah I like it. They all looks great, especially Reina and Koha :P
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Okejy PV nothing special, but OMG THE GIRLS :heart: :heart:, they look so stunning :heart: :heart: especially JunJun, Eri, Ai. LinLin and Aika (a little bit biased when it comes to JunJun and Eri XD).
I really like the song :D So happy :D
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Baby Linlin is the cutest thing ever.
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Song wasn't special. PV was blah. But the girls were great. As usual. XD
Ai was <3. Seriously. She must be channeling Yossy somehow. Not quite on the same level certainly, but you can feel the coolness oozing out. Of course, she manages to ruin it with her classic BIG GRIN, but eh, it doesn't fully cancel out the fact that she was cool. XD Short hair suits Ai-chan. <3
I liked the rest too. Risa was also <3. And Junjun! <333 Koha looked great, as did Aika. Oh what am I talking about, they all looked good. XD And yeah, the baby pics were a nice touch.
Now...if only the song was better...oh well..
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baby kamei :shy1:
Mikan PV - mediafire mirror [MUSIC ON! TV 11-07-07] (http://www.mediafire.com/?42pl99gm11z)(http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/7908/c07ak8.png)
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I finally got through on Dohhh UP! after so many errors. Very bright feeling to the video. I liked the the part where they are lounging on the floor with the stars and earth. Nice eyes everyone. :lol: The dancing was cool, felt really strong. I liked the kid pics, a nice touch. Junjun and Linlin are both dressed up. Reina, wow, her hair. XD Ai really stood out to me, Linlin and Junjun looked really cool too. Just that the brightness hurts my eyes.X_x
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Why did they have to recycle Takahashi's baby picture...
Anyway, I lol'd @ another shitty greenscreen PV.
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so a greenscreen this time... kinda half-happy half-unsatisfied here at the PV setting
but OH MY GOD the girls are gorgeous! It's the saving grace of this PV. makes me like the song more.
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...I love everything about this release. The song, the pv, the covers... I mean really.
The PV excited me, even if it was just a greenscreen. It's something different that a giant sparkly background with sparkly outfits. And the girls DID look amazing. I was really impressed by JunJun. She is finally starting to look like she is in an idol group. And Aika was cute as a button. AND SAYUMI SOLO LINES FTW! :wub:
I believe this single could sell REALLY well, despite the competition.
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the cg's were quite ok, better than 'ambitious' . But at least they should 've used a 2nd wardrobe. The girls were all lovely btw
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There will always be people that think the PV is bad. Could it have been better? Yes. Could have it been better FOR THE SONG? Well, it's a personal thing. To me, this PV is really good and in sync with the song. And what's better, japanese fans like it too.
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^ I agree I thought the PV made everything fit together perfectly! I know that many people complain about not liking this or that and I feel it gets old if you don't like it then why do you even care to listen or watch it? I am sick of hearing all the negative comments if you don't have anything good to say don't say it. Anyways..I like the baby pictures,the dance,the members looking uber cool and the song of course :lol: It was nice seeing Eri and Sayu in the front and actually having lines! Mikan= :heart:
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I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE MIkan, its so retarded :heart:
random screencap, paused in the wrong time:
(http://toromoni.mine.nu/up/files/data/7/toro7206.jpg)
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Finally a PV where every girl gets their equal shining moments! They all look wonderful and they all get screen-time. Liking the song more now too :heart:
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LITTLE AIKA AND THE PUPPY
:mon lovelaff:
Oh my god. Whoever thought of this was a genius.
Tiny Aika and a puppy. I HAVE DISCOVERED ENTIRELY NEW LEVELS OF CUTE.
My only complaint is NEEDS MOAR JUNJUN. She looked soomgamazing. The dance could've been better, but I was too distracted from being BLINDED by the cute. But anyway, Sayumi totally owned the dance, especially in the beginning. I could barely take my eyes off of her.
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The girls looked gorgeous (Airin was HOT though) and the dance was cute. Nice combination ^_^ after three very mature PVs, this is refreshing. One negative thing was that at some moments some girls opened their mouths too much :lol:
ROFL @ the mikan. And the baby pictures :heart: match the lyrics somehow.
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Girls are aweosme, cute and pretty, young pictures are cuuuute, the choregraphy is catchy and energic, colors are cool (but a little bit too blue), and I like the song ^^ Sure it will be a 50K single. After all, this is Morning Musume ?
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I like this PV. It's fantastic!
I love the outfits, the rainbows, the baby pics, BABY LINLIN FTW!; I think this is my favorite 2007 Morning Musume PV.
Love, Charmy
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Just watched the PV. First time hearing the song too.
The song is nothing memorable, but the PV is cool. Reminds me of LM, but not as crazy (cosplay, please!). Baby pics are cute. Baby Sayu is so adorable. :heart: :heart: :heart:
Now excuse me when I go prepare my blender. >:D
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The song is nothing memorable, but the PV is cool.
Yesh. They look gorgeous, and the PV is nice, but the song has yet to grow on me. e_e
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The 'baby' photos:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/th_mikan_fotos.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/tinybaka/hp/mikan_fotos.jpg)
(click for bigger)
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LinLin owns the baby pictures XD
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baby sayu and junjun boy are sooooooooooooooooo cute
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Baby Aika and Baby Linlin! <<<<33
I like the PV! It's light and fun. Everyone looks amazing, escpecially Junjun, Aika and Sayu :heart:
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(http://www.imgur.com/files/1107/baby-kame.jpg)
Omg :heart:
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aww, baby Linlin was so cute! I like the song now, maybe I'll like it a little more after listening to it a few times. Koharu's look in the PV reminds me of her early days in Momusu, and that Chokken 2. and lmao, Reina's baby pic reminds me of 'Annie'.
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Wow! I hadn't listened to the song yet. I hadn't even preordered 'cause, well... no Yossy no Miki make Almond a sad MM. fan XD
But I really like the song and the PV, so I guess I'm roped back in... again. I wish I had a new favorite and I really wish Hello! Morning was still on the air so I could find one. :lol:
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It doesn't matter how cute they are when they were a child; it is what they have become that is more important.
Since you guys are putting inputs, I will too. Sayu owns the baby picture as well as the present. Linlin is really cute back then but now....but now... :'(
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KIDDIE MUSUMES!!! :wriggly:
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It'll take a bit more listening for the song to stick, but the PV was good! All the girls (esp. Eri, Sayu, and Ai :heart:) looked gorgeous and the baby pictures were WIN! Aika, Eri's and LinLin's baby pictures were so cute :P
I guess the only thing that bothered me was the weird square shine in the eye thing, cause it made the girls look kinda creepy at the close-ups.
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^yeah btw how do they make those eye shiny thing? Ive seen some pv with the girls having stars in their eyes etc.. do they stick a light on top of the camera or what?
After watching a few more time It really grows on me.. energetic dance, gorgeous close-up... and just a lot of smiles ^_^
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(http://www.imgur.com/files/1107/baby-kame.jpg)
Omg :heart:
Kamei wins :shy1:
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It'll take a bit more listening for the song to stick, but the PV was good!
This. The song doesn't do a lot for me but the PV is fun :P
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^yeah btw how do they make those eye shiny thing? Ive seen some pv with the girls having stars in their eyes etc.. do they stick a light on top of the camera or what?
There are neon lights around the camera to make it look like that, We could see how they made in one of the ZYX making of if I remember well. Well it's only lights in the shape of what they want around the camera, nothing more.
I really like the pv! The choreography looks great and Ai's short hair is :heart:!
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OH how lovely... Aika with the puppy and Linlin FTW *o* so cute
Well i´m not a big fan of japanese videos, most of them are sooo low budget... but this one look just right, it fits the music and look good (damm look good coz is all about the girls) I like the dance and the fashion *o* Sayu, Ai and Kame rocks.
Oh and that CIRCLE in the girls eyes are lights indeed, is a circle of lights and is very strong XD it can be used close but not too much time... i don´t like the effect it put the girls eyes like with bad contacs
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(http://www.imgur.com/files/1107/baby-kame.jpg)
Omg :heart:
Kamei wins :shy1:
baby kamei looks like YUI
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Well i´m not a big fan of japanese videos, most of them are sooo low budget...
Are you kidding me? Japanese music videos (mostly avex and sony) have the most expensive videos in Asia and might as well the rest of the world except the U.S. If you are the 2nd biggest music industry in the world, there's little room to be cheap. On the other hand, you must be watching those music videos from small recording companies.
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I like the PV. It hearkens back to the old-school H!P PVs which also used a lot of greenscreening effects. The childhood pictures were also a nice touch.
The song is growing on me, too. ^^
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this PV just saved me from givin up MM xD
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There are neon lights around the camera to make it look like that, We could see how they made in one of the ZYX making of if I remember well. Well it's only lights in the shape of what they want around the camera, nothing more.
Oh and that CIRCLE in the girls eyes are lights indeed, is a circle of lights and is very strong XD it can be used close but not too much time... i don´t like the effect it put the girls eyes like with bad contacs
I see! that's interesting how they thought out these things xD
hmm I actually like the effect it gives to the girls' eyes ^_^
btw anyone noticed how fast they switched koharu's face when they're showing the baby pic? (it's around 1:58)
all the other girls were shown doing something before their baby pic was shown but Koharu's was like, her face didn't even show for half a second xD
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hmm I actually like the effect it gives to the girls' eyes ^_^
yeah, me too ~ :luvluv2: one of the reason I like close up ~
btw anyone noticed how fast they switched koharu's face when they're showing the baby pic? (it's around 1:58)
all the other girls were shown doing something before their baby pic was shown but Koharu's was like, her face didn't even show for half a second xD
............... because there is already tooooooo much Koha in the PV ?? LOL XD
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in the video Sayumi remembers me to Maki Goto... don´t know why but in she does ^^U maybe is because she looks terrific sometimes cute and sometimes sexy.
there is too much Koha? i barely notice it (wich is good) but it will be better with more Kamei.
oh and aika´s baby pic... i was imaging a granny voice saying MY puppy!!! XD
Pd: just realize i´ve got a problem with music videos... just say that youtube is not my favorite web and that i rarely saw mtv XD better shut up
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This vid is so "Nogashita Sakana Wa Ookizo!" ish
same 3 members stance, same kind of lightings, use of CG. i bet the producers are the same.
Nooooooot that i'm hating it though. The song is so so (yet... maybe i'd grow into it) but the use of baby pics was a killer turnaround. The huuuuge amount of close ups was a win as well.
Without these 2, i'd have given the PV a 1/10 :D
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Pd: just realize i´ve got a problem with music videos... just say that youtube is not my favorite web and that i rarely saw mtv XD better shut up
Does MTV really play music videos? I thought it was all about "reality" shows and freak shows. I see videos there once or twice a day :(
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This vid is so "Nogashita Sakana Wa Ookizo!" ish
Funny, I saw it more like "Ambitious". How we all saw them as baby reminded me how they were breaking their images, the use of the green screen like in the car part and the choreography was similar in some points.
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HAHA! XD Aika looked EXACTLY THE SAME when she was a kid! XD
Making a broken record here, but the baby pictures were awesome. Kinda random, but awesome. Also loved the outfits.
Not really liking the song yet, but I dig the PV. Lots of silver. XD
Junjun~ *_*
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This part is awesome:
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2785/takittyeyeska8.gif)
Leader is gorgeous!! :wub:
I like this PV, and this song a lot, but I still think the previous 3 singles are better (but I rate EYN, KT and ONSA in the top 10 MM songs, so they're hard to beat)
Koharu looks cool on the dancing, specially raising her leg while doing that little hop, Reina is beautiful as ever, Sayumi still has the prettiest face in japan IMHO, linlin looks great but junjun doesn't look that good tbh. Eri is a front girl, yeah!!! Too little mamechan though >_<. Aika is looking better everytime... she's gonna be a hottie.
I think the CG was cheap, but it did the job. The girls looking gorgeous definitely made the PV. I'm still amazed at how good aichan is looking, cool and sexy, and her smile at 1:44 is LEGENDARY, I :heart: her.
The song is catchy and has really mature lyrics, posted by ampedechoz in JPM, but translation credit goes to Ruler of Takamagahara:
On a bright morning wow wow chance. OH YEAH, you'll get a chance.
On the morning you begin your jorney. OH YEAH, you'll get a chance.
No matter how many times I've come to see my dream, I can't bring myself to give up on it.
Women or men, it's the same for both.
Being born in a loving planet, meeting someone you can love.
You have less than a century to accomplish that.
There are moments when you're sad, moments when you're happy, become a kind person. OH YES!
You only have one life to fall in love
A smile is the door through which good fortune comes LOVE IS ONE TIME
In order to live, you should, like a new crying newborn baby,
be as innocent as when you were born.
No matter how many times you stumble because of love, you always raise up.
It's the same no matter whether you're an adult or a beginner[first time doing this could also work].
When I first fell in love and didn't know what to do, I listening to a song loudly.
Because you're poor at it, it's all the more precious. OH YES!
Live this life positively, a gathering of smiling people, LIFE IS ONE TIME
Today or tomorow, everyday is 24 hours long
No matter whom, everyone gets embraced by the morning sunshine.
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I just realized the baby pic they used for Koharu is the same one(I'am sure it is) they used on one H!M show, the 30th single special one. Not trying to make a 'dee dee dee' moment here, lol.
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I like the PV a lot :)
Everyone looks so nice.. and the lights-in-eyes thing is just.. wow *_*
The outfits are great too.
The close-ups on LinLin reminds me of Ayaka a lot~ >_>
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=9C6kgOlns9g
English subs YAY
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this PV just saved me from givin up MM xD
really? wow!
maybe i have to listen more to it.
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The PV is good and the music is catchy. And the baby pics are cool.
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This vid is so "Nogashita Sakana Wa Ookizo!" ish
Funny, I saw it more like "Ambitious". How we all saw them as baby reminded me how they were breaking their images, the use of the green screen like in the car part and the choreography was similar in some points.
so ...... it's "Nogashita Sakana Wa Ookizo!" + "Ambitious" + "Furusato" ?? XD
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this PV just saved me from givin up MM xD
really? wow!
maybe i have to listen more to it.
yeah!! ;DD
'cause at first when I heard the song I thought it was nothin special.. but now it's just growing! I love the refrain! and I love Aichan's and Reina's sololines :heart: I'm so happy xD since when Miki left I have been rather anti MM xDDD but now after this.. well, I'm happy again xD tomorrow I'm gonna order all versions of this and Onna ni sachi are :heart:
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I haven't been around for a couple days, but I'm really excited about the PV! I mean I was in wonder for so long and seeing it when it came out I was very happy with what I saw!
1. It has baby pictures, which is awesome!
2. The colors are sparklie but still pleasant, very nice
3. The eye effects... the way they set up the lights to reflect in their eyes... @_@ my goodness!
4. The mikan in the background... cute and yet not distracting (or odd like Ootsuka Ai's peach...><)
5. Good close up moments, all of them have a moment of maximum cuteness!
6 and the most important: it makes me happy and cheers me up!
Of course its not the perfect song musically and I'm sure the PV doesn't help everyone, but for me... I'm :heart: :heart:.
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I don't think the PV is anything that special but I didn't really get why the ONSA one had to be so damn crappy looking so it's a step up from that at least. Shame the song is nowhere near as good...
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I don't think the PV is anything that special but I didn't really get why the ONSA one had to be so damn crappy looking so it's a step up from that at least. Shame the song is nowhere near as good...
hmmm.... I think the ONSA PV is ok ... yes, it's a little bit crappy, but still very good .... maybe it's because of Miki, they went over budget when they re-film the whole thing XD or they saved the money for Mikan's CG XD
about the song .... maybe Tsunku is having a "writer's block" or something like that XD but it's still ok
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The ONSA PV might be cheap but it kinda I felt it fit the song okay. I like the PV of Mikan but the song really isn't doing much for me at the moment. Maybe a couple more spins would help. *keeps fingers crossed* The baby pics were a nice touch though, and everyone looked absolutely adorable and gorgeous. I'm just a little miffed that Gaki-san got sooooooooo little screentime.
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I hate ONSA PV xDD it's cheap and the costumes are ugly :X but the dance is win xD Mikan PV is much better ^^ and Mikan PV got happiness!! ;DD
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My first impression of the PV was pretty bad. I don't like the dance and I don't think it matches the song, but I liked the outfits and the baby pics were cute. Good thing I like the song and 2ch seems to be liking it too.
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Well i´m not a big fan of japanese videos, most of them are sooo low budget...
Are you kidding me? Japanese music videos (mostly avex and sony) have the most expensive videos in Asia and might as well the rest of the world except the U.S. If you are the 2nd biggest music industry in the world, there's little room to be cheap. On the other hand, you must be watching those music videos from small recording companies.
agree! take a look at ayumi hamasaki's pvs like "jewel" or "inspire".
"Hamasaki also raised media attention for the music video of "Jewel," which shows 100 million yen (almost $900,000 U.S. dollars) worth of diamonds, jewels, and Swarovski crystals. The video is one of the most expensive videos ever made." source-wikipedia
which is anything but cheap!! :?
in "Fairyland" she burn down the whole house..what about other pvs like glitter? they hire hongkong actors too! Her outfits are ex too! for some pvs they hire so many extras too! wad about "Voyage" ? you should see how much those costume and extras costs...
H!p may be of lower budget but that's only becos they have so many members... ;)
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please try not to double post, thank you
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Definetly not enough takahashi..but I did a count between Koharu and Ai and ai still got more scenes and lines LOL or maybe her voice is more distinctive.(not that koharu's isnt she's distintively the worse but u have to give her credit for trying!) The dance is not as good as the other pvs but the costume totally rawks. I think the 6th gen looks really pretty! Ai-chan n risa too! Linlin's baby pic is the prettiest n reina's is kinda yankee with that beehive hair =) So cute! :heart: on the down side..too much koharu
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H!P Official Site was updated with new pics for Momusu.
http://www.helloproject.com/img/top/01.jpg
And their artist page has been updated. Sayu's pic is the cutest IMO.
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^aika is adorable :heart: :heart:
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umm..anyone ripped it yet? ;)
hehe..
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umm..anyone ripped it yet? ;)
hehe..
Well, it's ten day left until it will be released so you'll have to go with Radio and PV rips for a little while longer.
;)
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BANZAI~~~ XD XD
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does any1 have the lyrics?
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The song is catchy and has really mature lyrics, posted by ampedechoz in JPM, but translation credit goes to Ruler of Takamagahara:
On a bright morning wow wow chance. OH YEAH, you'll get a chance.
On the morning you begin your jorney. OH YEAH, you'll get a chance.
No matter how many times I've come to see my dream, I can't bring myself to give up on it.
Women or men, it's the same for both.
Being born in a loving planet, meeting someone you can love.
You have less than a century to accomplish that.
There are moments when you're sad, moments when you're happy, become a kind person. OH YES!
You only have one life to fall in love
A smile is the door through which good fortune comes LOVE IS ONE TIME
In order to live, you should, like a new crying newborn baby,
be as innocent as when you were born.
No matter how many times you stumble because of love, you always raise up.
It's the same no matter whether you're an adult or a beginner[first time doing this could also work].
When I first fell in love and didn't know what to do, I listening to a song loudly.
Because you're poor at it, it's all the more precious. OH YES!
Live this life positively, a gathering of smiling people, LIFE IS ONE TIME
Today or tomorow, everyday is 24 hours long
No matter whom, everyone gets embraced by the morning sunshine.
I heard there will be no single-v for mikan? instead, the PV will be in the new 10 year PV compilation?
hmm... and I just thought that mikan might be the first single-v I buy...
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I heard there will be no single-v for mikan? instead, the PV will be in the new 10 year PV compilation?
hmm... and I just thought that mikan might be the first single-v I buy...
Are the 'making of's included in the singleVs?
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The 'making of' Mikan is included on the 10 year PV collection DVD.
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^ ah really? That's cool, I thought only an alternate version was included.
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The 'making of' Mikan is included on the 10 year PV collection DVD.
This DVD you're referring to wouldn't happen to be the DVD that was for the [ALL SINGLES COMPLETE] would it? o.O I'm confused..
And about the PV, I'm liking the style of this one, even if it IS all green screen..props to the producers for putting a large orange in the background XD
Edit: There wouldn't happen to be the PV uploaded onto some download site, would there...?
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The 'making of' Mikan is included on the 10 year PV collection DVD.
This DVD you're referring to wouldn't happen to be the DVD that was for the [ALL SINGLES COMPLETE] would it? o.O I'm confused..
--> Morning Musume All Singles Complete Zen 35 Kyoku - 10th Anniversary [limited Release]
Two DVDs with all the PVs for the 35 singles + some bonus videos.
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--> Morning Musume All Singles Complete Zen 35 Kyoku - 10th Anniversary [limited Release]
Two DVDs with all the PVs for the 35 singles + some bonus videos.
Is there an Amazon link for that? Can't find it...
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--> Morning Musume All Singles Complete Zen 35 Kyoku - 10th Anniversary [limited Release]
Two DVDs with all the PVs for the 35 singles + some bonus videos.
Is there an Amazon link for that? Can't find it...
Don't know about Amazon, but here are a couple other ones where it's available.
YesAsia - http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-j/section-videos/pid-1005103842/
CD Japan - http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=EPBE-5274
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Here's the amazon link:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/DVD%E6%98%A0%E5%83%8F-%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BB%E3%83%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8B%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E5%A8%98%E3%80%82-SINGLES-COMPLETE-ANNIVERSARY~/dp/B000Y3JG8U/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1194982504&sr=8-2
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^ Thanks! pre-ordered.
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Morning Musume will appear at Utaban on 29 November.
11月29日（木）19:54～20:54 TBSテレビ
うたばん
モーニング娘。
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That's cool. Hopefully it will be a bit more interesting than the ONSA appearance.
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at least this time no OG will suddenly appear and steal the show ..................... I hope XD
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The song is quite catchy. Eventho the PV sorta reminded me on Ambitious. Just place that Orange to the top of the screen and you got almost Ambitious lol....
Anyway I preordered the CD. I would even say one of the best MM Songs so far this year, at least for me^^
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-P9hAoI-mI
Bon Kyu! Bon Kyu! Bomb Girl radio rip :heart: :heart: I love this song so much :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
I got the link to the video from JPM,
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I was instantly reminded of "Chance Chance Boogie", especially because of the intro.
It's not bad, very fun and up-beat and somewhat catchy, but it definitely sounds like a b-side XD I like it though.
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Ah cool, thanks I'm not quite sure what to think just yet but it doesn't seem awful at least.
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Thanks for posting the b-side. Pretty good song, but it's not my style at all.. It's interesting how jpop can combine with several styles of music (rock, boogie, flamengo, etc) and still stay pop.
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It's Bon Kyu! Bon Kyu BOMB no Theme like we all thought!
Anyway, I laughed at the H!M perf. Ai and Reina were the only ones who sang live. XD But I think group parts might've been live too..
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:inlove: :inlove: :w00t: :w00t:
Woha! Most awesome song of the year! Nuf said!
:mon lovelaff:
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MIKAN LIVE AT HAROMONI@! http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1495033RHyRtRaK :heart:
I loved itttttttt! They all look great but I think Koharu really out shined them all lol
Neeedss more Jun and Eri but its a good performance.
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I don't know if I'm gonna buy this single ...... both A & B are not really that "interesting" to me (this single probably become the only MM single I don't have ............)
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I don't know if I'm gonna buy this single ...... both A & B are not really that "interesting" to me (this single probably become the only MM single I don't have ............)
Just watch the PV a few times, throw the song onto your mp3 player and go out for a walk while you listen to it... If you still don't like it, it was never meant to be....
But anyway, I'm all over this song like Tyrone Biggums on rocks!
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mp3 rip of vid Seagull posted
Bonkyu! Bonkyu! BOMB GIRL.mp3 (http://www.sendspace.com/file/gr0u5j)
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Well, now that it's out, I'm going to go ahead and say that I actually like Bomb Girl more than the a-side. It just seems like it would be a really fun song to see live.
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Really love this song XD Very Catchy XD
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I was instantly reminded of "Chance Chance Boogie", especially because of the intro.
It's not bad, very fun and up-beat and somewhat catchy, but it definitely sounds like a b-side XD I like it though.
that was my exact reaction, too..
i love Mikan though..
surprisingly more than i thought i would :P
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I'm one person that like Mikan more than Bonkyu Bomb!
Mikan sounds very close to Onna ni Sachi Are to me. I like the music of Onna ni Sachi Are more, but I guess Mikan has better meanings. :D
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First day ranking: 5th ~
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Yeah, that ranking doesn't seem very high, but to say the competition is strong is an understatement.
The top 10 today:
1. Ｋｅｅｐ ｔｈｅ ｆａｉｔｈ - ＫＡＴ－ＴＵＮ (88,358)
2. 聖なる夜に／冬物語 - Ketsumeishi (20,867)
3. Ｉ Ｂｅｌｉｅｖｅ - EXILE (20,317)
4. ＫＩＳＳして - KOH+
5. Mikan - Morning Musume
6. 光 - Ginnan BOYZ
7. Ｕｌｔｒａ Ｍｕｓｉｃ Ｐｏｗｅｒ - Hey! Say! JUMP
8. Ｈｕｒｒｙ Ｘｍａｓ - L'Arc~en~Ciel
9. 俺たちの明日 - ELEPHANT KASHIMASHI
10. ジュゴンの見える丘 - Cocco
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LOL! They beat out Hey Say JUMP! w00t!
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I'm one person that like Mikan more than Bonkyu Bomb!
naah, I like Mikan more too ^_^ although Bonkyu Bomb is also very catchy. Maybe it's thanks to the PV? :D
Oh and I just watched the closeup version of Mikan! it's totally awesome! more Risa = total win. too bad there's almost no Aika on the first half of the PV :( but still a good version ^_^
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oo, where can i find the close-up version?
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LOL! They beat out Hey Say JUMP! w00t!
Hey! Say! JUMP was a release of last week...
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oo, where can i find the close-up version?
I downloaded it from hello!online tracker :p
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I'm wondering where did LOVE(Ai Otsuka) go?
Is she not in the chart or I'm blind? :?
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^ LOVE is at 34 in the daily charts. Otsuka Ai's alter ego doesn't sell that much usually.
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LOL! They beat out Hey Say JUMP! w00t!
Hey! Say! JUMP was a release of last week...
That doesn't means they don't have the power to make it in the Top #3 for their second week, like happened with H!S!7 XD
So kinda means they sold like 19,000 or under 19,000 XD Not bad~ They're in the Top 5.
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oo, where can i find the close-up version?
I downloaded it from hello!online tracker :p
ohh, haha ok =]
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LOL! They beat out Hey Say JUMP! w00t!
Hey! Say! JUMP was a release of last week...
That doesn't means they don't have the power to make it in the Top #3 for their second week, like happened with H!S!7 XD
So kinda means they sold like 19,000 or under 19,000 XD Not bad~ They're in the Top 5.
Yeah. At least MoMusu kept their record of all singles debuting in the top 10. Hopefully the single will do better in the days to come, though it'll be hard.
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I liked this song, better than Onna ni sachi are imo.
I was wishing it would be a little higher in Oricon but 5th place isn't that bad, as said, considering the competition ...
The thing I loved about the PV is how cute they look when they were younger, I think the cuter was Mutsui holding the dog :wub: ! But Kusumi was not only cute but looking just like herself, it seems she's been genki ever since she was a child.
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^ LOVE is at 34 in the daily charts. Otsuka Ai's alter ego doesn't sell that much usually.
I think that's not selling at all :lol:
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COME ON MIKAN! i know u could do better. please be in the top 10 for the first week, no in the top 5, hopefully in the top 3. MoMusu 4EVA!!!
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Did anyone get their copy yet? I want to know what the bonus cards look like :)
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2nd day: 6th :cry:
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:cry: :cry:
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3rd Day : 7 th >_<""
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It's still in the Top 10 regardless, let's hope it stays there a while longer!
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and...the lyrics o.O
Mikan - Morning Musume
mabushii asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE
tabidatsu asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE OH YEAH
nandomo yume wo mite kita
akirame tari wa dekinai
onna no ko demo otoko no ko demo
onaji koto jan
aisuru hoshi ni umarete
aisuru hito to deaete
isseiki mitanu michi dakara
kanashimi yorokobi mo ari
yasashiku nare OH YES
ningen mina suki ni nare jinsei wa ikkai
warau kado ni fuku kitaru LIFE IS ONE TIME
ikiru tame ni naiteiru akago no yoni
umaretate no junsui na kokoro de are
mabushii asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE
tabidatsu asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE OH YEAH
nandoka ai ni tsumazuki
soredemo tachiagaru daro
dai no otona demo shoshinsha datte
onaji koto jan
hajimete koi wo shita toki
doshite iika wakarazu
okina oto de kyoku kiita
nigatena hito dakara koso
taisetsu daro OH YES
sekkyokuteki ni ikirunda jinsei wa ikkai
warau hito ni hito tsudo LIFE IS ONE TIME
kyo mo asu mo mainichi wa nijuyojikan
donna hito mo asa no hi ni tsutsumareru
ningen mina suki ni nare jinsei wa ikkai
warau kado ni fuku kitaru LIFE IS ONE TIME
ikiru tame ni naiteiru akago no yoni
umaretate no junsui na kokoro de are
sekkyokuteki ni ikirunda jinsei wa ikkai
warau hito ni hito tsudo LIFE IS 'OH YEAR ONE TIME'
kyo mo asu mo mainichi wa nijuyojikan
donna hito mo asa no hi ni tsutsumareru
mabushii asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE
tabidatsu asa ni WOO WOO CHANCE
OH YEAH YOU'LL GOTTA A CHANCE OH YEAH
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^Official lyrics will be up on Projecthello soon. ^.~
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I'm willing to trade the Niigaki Risa card I got with my Mikan copy for a Michishige sayumi card. Please PM me :) :)
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Got my Ver. A (DVD) and Ver. B (PB) of this single today, and I'm so loving the photoshoot for this, some really great shots from the mix of the girls. Glad I went for 2 versions, and got a Sayu (which will soon be a Risa) and Junjun. :wub:
And it's sad this single is dropping places, as it is really good, both tracks are wonderful songs. Good to see it at least ranking in the top 10.
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(http://www.imgur.com/files/1123/mikan-ms1.jpg)
Morning Musume - Mikan performance (Music Japan 07-11-23) (http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=c4eea258f755b948508b3745670d84df)
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For Oricon weekly chart, I don't think HSJ on their second week would be able to beat Mikan's first week sales and Ginnan Boyz sales on their first day should be a lot less than MM's first day, so I reckon 5th is still possible depending on the rests of the week, and hope they don't fall back any further. :yep:
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Day 4 : 9th
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Day 4 : 9th
I can't watch! :cry:
Please no low-selling record. :bleed eyes:
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Day 4 : 9th
Uggh!!!
but they are up against some strong competition....
hope with all my heart the rank will rise (what matters is the first weeks sales rite? not daily). i know that not all cd sales are counted and also popularity can't sometimes be equaled to sales figure... but MoMusu have been keeping an unbeatable record (all singles ranked in the top 10 in the first week) as well as several others. i just really want them to continue on with this records.
..........
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Tbh I'm not surprised to see the song slipping, regardless of the competition. Don't get me wrong I like the new song but it is much more "generic" than a lot of their stuff, like was said by plenty of people when the song was first heard it realyl does sound like an anime theme and damn that was the wrong way to go...
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^ i actually agree, i do like the song, but it's does feel different from their earlier singles. i don't know what u mean by *generic* but i do understand about the anime theme song thing. it's like cartoony or something, like for little kids and stuff. not like tsunku's usual work. but i think he's trying something new with this single. and it is good to experiment with music, it just.... hmm i dunno
but still, i don't it would as successful as the other previous singles of the year, but i don't want them to stop their record now with this one.
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^ Well this is just down to my opinion but I reckon a lot of pop songs used as anime themes are pretty similar; I'd consider Momosu to have varied styles between songs and that's one fo the main things that set them apart from other pop bands but Mikan could well be a song by plenty of other girl groups in Japan...that's what I reckon anyway.
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^ really? they're dropping? hmm... wonder why? I personally like this single a lot.
maybe it's one of those single that you either really like or dislike... I dunno.
I'm still believing that they'll keep their record, we'll see... ^_^
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A low-ranking doesn't necessarily mean really low sales, anyway.
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Today's : 10th
I felt kinda guilty about that .... I didn't buy the CD ...........
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^I know me too, I was gonna get it cuz I actually really like it but just never got around to it...:(
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I felt kinda guilty about that .... I didn't buy the CD ...........
I think only certain sites actually count towards the ranking when you buy from them (like Amazon Japan?). So if you bought from CDJAPAN, for example, no matter how many copies you buy, it won't affect the ranking.
(Unless you buy from Amazon, of course)
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^But I've heard CDjapan does count because oricon lists its head (japanese online)company as a place they get their figures from. O.o
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^Yes, CDJapan counts. it's Yesasia that's not counted, rite?
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^But I've heard CDjapan does count because oricon lists its head (japanese online)company as a place they get their figures from. O.o
Or I could have it the other way around, I don't remember which sites were counted and which weren't, but I just wanted to say that not all sites counted towards the ranking XD
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Neowing, CDJapan's mother company, is counted, so CDJapan is probably too. I'll admit I ordered my copies from YesAsia because they handle transactions in U.S. Dollars and the U.S. Dollar is really cheap for anyone in the Euro-zone at the moment.
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I buy from CDJapan, I've been under the impression that it counts, so it better.
I bought 2 versions this time (I don't do that normally) so at least I got in an extra for someone that didn't order this time. (or at least we can think that way)
@ twoheart: A low ranking may not mean low sales, but it's still a sad thing to see in the ranking and doesn't look all that good for the group.
I really don't want them to lose their records they had with their rankings. :cry:
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And on different thought, I wish there was a remix for Bonkyu Bonkyu BOMB GIRL also on the single, because I feel this song could have a really cool one and I want to hear one (and really I wish all b-sides could have a remix version included on the single as well).
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I'm kinda worry ... some newspaper even say that MM may lose their "seat" in the Kouhaku .........
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I'm kinda worry ... some newspaper even say that MM may lose their "seat" in the Kouhaku .........
Probably rumours, I'm sure they'll still be there. No matter how crappy their sales are, having Momusu on 'Kouhaku' is like a requirement.
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^ Hm, w'll AKB48 is going to be there...
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This single rocks!
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I'm kinda worry ... some newspaper even say that MM may lose their "seat" in the Kouhaku .........
Hey, it's no problem if they don't go this year. They already are some performances above some "bigger" acts. MM has 9 appearances, Hamasaki has 8, BoA, X-Japan and w-inds have 5, and some have less than five, like Utada Hikaru. It would be nice for them to make their 10th appearance on their 10th anniversary, but it's not the end of the world.
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Not high ranking =/= end of the world
Not high ranking =/= low sales
Just because a single doesn't have a high rank doesn't mean it's selling terribly. And vice-versa. Remember Suki Sugite Baka Mitai? I predict this'll hit the 50,000 mark like all Morning Musume singles.
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Someone on 2ch has calculated a prediction for the first four days of sale of 26K sold. Let's say his prediction is cautiously on the low side, and with two more days of sales, the first week total should easily be over 30K, perhaps even over 40K. Over 40K in the first week would be nice, with ample opportunity to reach 50K in the following weeks.
For the rank my personal prediction is either 5th or 6th. I'd rather hope it's not 7th or lower because 6th is the lowest rank for any MM single (Morning Coffee). To extend the ranking records Mikan has to be in the top 10 and that is not a problem as far as I can see.
I was wondering if Mikan is also been sold via the iTunes Music Store in Japan or the US. Or perhaps via some other site?
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XD
Not high ranking =/= end of the world
Not high ranking =/= low sales
Just because a single doesn't have a high rank doesn't mean it's selling terribly. And vice-versa. Remember Suki Sugite Baka Mitai? I predict this'll hit the 50,000 mark like all Morning Musume singles.
I agree. The reason Mikan's doing kind of doinky is because of all the big competition this week. You have 2 drama theme songs (one from a drama that has been getting great ratings), and you have new singles from groups like EXILE and Ketsumeishi too. And did I mention one of those drama theme songs is by KAT-TUN? So yeah, no wonder it's been dropping. Still, at least it has managed to stay in the top 10 all this week. It's not like it debuted at #20, or something. Hopefully it'll hang on, and if the Utaban people don't treat the members like pyon again when they go on, hopefully that'll help sales a little bit.
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I'm kinda worry ... some newspaper even say that MM may lose their "seat" in the Kouhaku .........
Hey, it's no problem if they don't go this year. They already are some performances above some "bigger" acts. MM has 9 appearances, Hamasaki has 8, BoA, X-Japan and w-inds have 5, and some have less than five, like Utada Hikaru. It would be nice for them to make their 10th appearance on their 10th anniversary, but it's not the end of the world.
Well, it's true it's not the end of the world if they don't get invited but I'm pretty sure some of those artists have declined their invitations some time because of busy schedule or something like that.
Anyway yeah, I don't think this single is selling worse than others, it's just a matter of context. If they release the same week KAT-TUN(right now, one of Johnny's best selling groups) and a bunch of other real big seller groups do, then sure they won't get get the top spot, but I'm sure this single could have been a no. 1 if it had been released on a low competition week. Actually, there was a theory that said that releasing on high competition weeks helped raising sales too couse it attracts people to the CD shops and therefore the other singles get more exposure as well.
What I mean is that this single is probably selling just like the ones MM has released lately, it's just that the context isn't favorable.
That said, I'd really like MM to be on Kouhaku.
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Nov. 25 : still 10th
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Morning Musume "Mikan" Weekly Rank: 6th. -/+ 28,000 (http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/49996/)
No comment.
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I always find it funny how people only focus on the negative side of things. Let me tell you what I see:
1 - Morning Musume keeps their record of having every single on the Top 10
2 - They did it in spite of the competition
3 - Do you know what all the other groups and singers that are on that list BELOW MM would be willing to do to have those sales?
Peace
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here, reyfer. :)
1 - This is their first single since Morning Coffee to rank outside the Top 5 (someone confirm this?)
2 - The sales figure is 3/4 that of "Egao YES Nude" (I'm using this as it was the previous single that did not have an associated handshake event) and "SEXY BOY" (the previous single that had the lowest first-week sales)
3- The sales figure is 1/2 that of the single in the 4th position (I can't find the 5th, sorry)
Maybe this single will stay on the Top 200 for a long time, though. :/ Berryz and C-ute's singles have embarrassingly long drops once the registration deadline's over so at least "Mikan" is sustainable.
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I think only certain sites actually count towards the ranking when you buy from them (like Amazon Japan?). So if you bought from CDJAPAN, for example, no matter how many copies you buy, it won't affect the ranking.
(Unless you buy from Amazon, of course)
Neowing, CDJapan's mother company, is counted, so CDJapan is probably too.
Just to clear this up, CDJapan sales DO count.
From http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/oricon.html:
"Items you purchase through CDJapan will be calculated into the daily and weekly sales data for Oricon music charts. This applies to all items available through our store."
As for Mikan being out of Top5, some artists can't even get to Top50 (and often get dropped by their labels because of that). Jeez.
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Maybe it's because I saw death in the face (long story) but since that accident I tend to see the positive side of things. So MIKAN is the first single besides Morning Coffee to be out of the top 5. So? There's positive in that too. You need to fall first in order to climb back. If you're used to the top, falling a little has to be incentive enough for doing it better next time. And also knowing how japanese sales work, I'm sure the actual figures are higher than what Oricon reflects. Their official Oricon records remain intact, though, because they refer to "Top 10" ranking, not Top 5.
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Exactly.
Being in the Top 10 is achievement enough, and as others have said, considering the competition it's great news. So, congrats girls! :yep:
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Usually I hate all the whining but come on, top 10 for the first time since Morning Coffee?? That's pretty BAD. I don't believe it means that Momusu is breaking up and that other crap, but these sales are, in momusu terms, BAD. That's just a fact, jack. lol These aren't some enka singers who usually sell 1000 copies, this is Morning Musume. We're allowed to expect them to sell a certain amount. And I hate it that every time someone is saying something REALISTIC about Momusu sales, there's someone lecturing them about it. OMG It's okay to be DISAPPOINTED if your favourite doesn't sell as much as you wish they did. It's a NATURAL REACTION. Sheesh.
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Sure, being in the Top 10 since 'Morning Coffee' is bad, but better now than never :) Right?
And I'm just going to stick at looking at the positive side of the situation. Sure, this happened, but at least we got this. That sort of thing.
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The Oricon singles chart top 10:
*1 350,863 KAT-TUN
*2 115,520 ケツメイシ
*3 *94,284 EXILE
*4 *54,639 KOH+
*5 *33,391 Hey!Say!JUMP
*6 *28,082 モーニング娘。
*7 *25,021 銀杏BOYZ
*8 *20,045 コブクロ
*9 *17,904 NEWS
10 *15,916 L'Arc～en～Ciel『Hurry Xmas』
These are sales of CDs. There is a global trend towards digital downloads (I do not mean file sharing). CD sales are hurting because of this and other reasons. That's why I was wondering if and where "Mikan" was being sold as digital download. If so, it would be nice if there's a comprehensive chart of digital download sales somewhere. That's the only way to make a fair comparison between artists and past and current results. We are not looking at the whole picture with Oricon sales alone.
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since no one post the daily .......
Nov 26 : STILL 10th
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This is disappointing to me. This could well be their lowest selling single ever and I hope it is and no future single go below that figure. Plus, I don't want to see MM lose out to C-ute or Buono!, and even Berryz are coming in this week. I'm wondering whether the promotions outside of Japan effected the sales and popularity inside Japan. With no handshake event for this single, Japanese might feel like they were left-out. Only if YesAsia and PlayAsia was counted, we might be competing for No.1 spot. :D
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Shirenu's right in a way, it's totally okay to feel bad when your favorite group is not doing well in their sales (the first thing that went to my head when I read the news was 'omg this is bad, is MM losing their touch?') but when I read Reyfer's post (yeah I usually read threads backwards XD ) I'm... kinda shocked at how positive he is.
but yeah, now I choose to just stay positive, I mean, I don't care what the figures say, Mikan is still a good single to me, and I still smile whenever I saw Ai-chan's smile at 1:53 :)
And who knows, just look at morning coffee, it placed 6th on it's first week ranking, and yet it's the start of a great streak of singles for MM. so maybe we can see this as MM starting fresh? maybe this isn't a bad sign at all, but a good sign of great singles to come ^_^
anyways that's my opinion :)
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Usually I hate all the whining but come on, top 10 for the first time since Morning Coffee?? That's pretty BAD. I don't believe it means that Momusu is breaking up and that other crap, but these sales are, in momusu terms, BAD. That's just a fact, jack. lol These aren't some enka singers who usually sell 1000 copies, this is Morning Musume. We're allowed to expect them to sell a certain amount. And I hate it that every time someone is saying something REALISTIC about Momusu sales, there's someone lecturing them about it. OMG It's okay to be DISAPPOINTED if your favourite doesn't sell as much as you wish they did. It's a NATURAL REACTION. Sheesh.
EXACTLY. A few months ago Onna sold 43K on the first week, and now Mikan only sells 28K. The girls are the same, so something must have happened. Don't talk about competition because there is always competition, big names and big surprises; don't talk about lack of promotion because the Anniversary has put them on the media again more than a simple single release would have ever done; don't talk about too much H!P releases at the same time because that's also a common thing.
Like shirenu says, these figures are BAD. You cannot talk about Morning Musume and the artists "below" them on the same terms, or on the same level, because Morning Musume is and has been a lot more, and their competition are those that are above them, not below. My biggest worry is that, with few expections, first weeks (and totals) are lower and lower with each single. I still remember when most of us discussed at JPM the bad sells of Nº5 and we freaked out with those "bad" results. If someone would have told us that a few years later we'd be talking about "28K"...
Seriously, when you've been a fan, and you have lived MM on the Gold Era, this figures simply hurt too much you can't just smile and pretend to see the positive things. I want Morning Musume to be big again, but I see they're not trying. Mikan is no proper a-side, TV schedule is horrible, and some people between 5th and 8th gen is not helping. Both UFA and Tsunku have made some decisions that have put the group on a threshold; my hope is that they can get over it somehow.
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^ I disagree on not being able to find the positive things in it though.
Like I said, sure it's bad, but at least their sales figures weren't as they were and they were far beyond the Top 10. It's highly possible, and yet, they're in the Top 10. I'm not going to be all "BOOHOO! Poor Momusu girls...!!", even though yes, that's a natural reaction XD People will also react differently.
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Part of the problem, in my case anyway, is that H!P is releasing way too much stuff. My spending money is very limited, so I have to choose between several photobooks, concert DVDs, singles from different units, etc. So I decided not to get Mikan.
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somehow I think Mikan shouldn't be a A-side .... it should be a B-side or in an album .......
btw, I think if Genki+ is the A-side, it'll sell a lot more :lol:
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But remember! It's not so much who buys the songs, it's how much people like and listen to the songs on the radio and download them because we're poor, cheap fuckers! :D
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And I hate it that every time someone is saying something REALISTIC about Momusu sales, there's someone lecturing them about it.
Yes, but the lecturing can't be totally unexpected these days...
What's the mood like in Japan regarding this single?
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It was definitely a bad idea to release Mikan last week with all those big singles coming out. It would just get pwned/overlooked. Not to mention the doinks at UFA probably thought that they could ride the wave from the ALL SINGLES COMPLETE release and so they didn't promote Mikan adequately enough compared to OnSA.
I don't think it's the end of MoMusu but definitely it should have done better! :banghead: I just hope that UFA learns a lesson next time...I think it would have definitely sold more copies had it not been released in such a busy week and had gotten more promotion...
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The song wasn't as good as the last ones, simple really.
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i personally like the song too, although i also think it could be better, the song, not the sales. compare to the previous singles of this year, this may have been the worst one. we did say that Tsunku may have been trying something new with this single, trying to creat a anime theme-like songs. maybe it could've sold better if it was actually a anime theme song. but who knows, i'm not even strong believe in that statement either.
But whether it's a good or bad single, what done is done. i'd say let's just forget it for now.
if u like the song, good, if u don't, then fine. let's move on. let's just wait what's the next thing have to offer. hope tsunku learns something from this and do a better job next time. MoMusu, too. and UFA, definitely.
I just wanna say..... MoMusu FOREVER~! I LOVE THEM, and even though i'm a lil sad about the low sales, i believe (and seriously don't wanna jinx anything) is still going strong, and become even better in the near future, so is H!P. i just got into them about more than a year ago and don't want it to end. i love the girls and think that they have great personalities, and i hope that they are gonna develop into stronger artists/idols. Ganbatte~!
Tsunku is a great producer, and i hope that u would still produce the great group known as MoMusu and H!P for more to come. and i know that something is not under his decisions and he can't control what UFA is doing.
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What's the mood like in Japan regarding this single?
Didn't even realise it was out :P I have seen and heard absolutely zero about it, and I'm in the damn fandom...
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^ Are you serious!? wow... talk about lack of promo :(
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Their appearance on Utaban is up at H!T now. IMO, the talk segment was looking good until they brought in "Dylan and Catherine". :angry:
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^ Are you serious!? wow... talk about lack of promo :(
Two weeks ago my friends in there didn't even know Onna ni Sacchi Are. With the songs premiere (and plays) in H!P self radio shows, and the TV performances in H!M or past mid-night shows (MJapan, MFighter) OBVIOUSLY people doesn't notice the song :banghead: You either go to HEY HEY HEY and/or Music Station or you simply do not exist. :cry:
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Their appearance on Utaban is up at H!T now. IMO, the talk segment was looking good until they brought in "Dylan and Catherine". :angry:
They have done that before, I thought, holy sh*t are those two still 'alive' and are they going to perform for the rest of the segment :angry: Luckely is was only for one question...
In all, short but not to bad the hosts had some good laughs which for me indicates they at least where somewhat amused and might bode not to bad for the next time they are on.
Also, no 'old one's' so that was a plus for current MM.
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Just got my copy of Mikan last night and argh! I got a Michishige card. :frustrated: Anyone with Kamei's (or Takahashi...or even Tanaka) willing to trade?
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^ :lol:
I got Aika card, but I'm ok with that, although I would be more happy to get someone else. :)
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Maybe it was the Utaban performance, but the single jumped from #38 to #22 on friday :)
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Ah that's good to hear!
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Good news with the sales ranking! I was impressed with their appearance in Utaban, I wasn't going to watch from the previous treatments they've had but I heard positive things so I decided to watch. :D
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That's great, hope they can push up a little more. :D
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Hate to say I told you so but..
... yeaaaah.
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Down to #28 on Saturday, but that's not bad. :)
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If they want a more "strong" flavor then they should keep talking to Sayumi and LinLin, and then maybe Eri, JunJun, Risa, Reina. Sayu has a really good comedic sense, and LinLin just says things that are perfect without really knowing.
Eri is totally spaced-out but still talkative, which is a great combination, and JunJun still comes out with random Chinese from time to time.
I still think LinLin's line when they explained the Johnson name was just GOLD, from the ONSA appearance with OG.
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Reina and Sayumi were like "what the hell ??" when they got the lyrics of "Mikan" but they can't find the word "Mikan" in any part of the song
-for more info, see the new videos @ H!P Chinese Site ^_^
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Dylan and Catherine were better in all the other parts of the show, especially with KAT-TUN since Kazuya had a chance to show his spot-on impersonations of Dylan. I also loved the Kuroyanagi Tetsuko monomane that the comedian who plays Catherine did. Does anyone happen to know her real name? I've loved just about everything I've ever seen her do.
Anyhow, I wonder if current Morning Musume will ever get the chance to have a talk segment on Utaban without a comedian coming in or a game being played to spice things up. I know that it's done with almost all the other guests that come on Utaban, but at least it's not so one-sided with them. I'm not holding my breath or anything, but I think a solo talk segment should be given a shot, cause they really haven't had the chance their senpais did to shine. Either the guests that come on with current MoMusu are stealing their "thunder", so to speak, or they really aren't entertaining on their own at all, but I'd like to see it either way. :O
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The problem with current utaban is the time they schedule for each artist.. In the older shows you would have 30-50 minutes of Morning Musume.. now it's just 10-15 minutes..
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Does anyone happen to know her real name? I've loved just about everything I've ever seen her do.
Tomochika Yukiko, although her stage name is Tomochika.
And yes, she is indeed a genius. :lol:
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Does anyone happen to know her real name? I've loved just about everything I've ever seen her do.
Tomochika Yukiko, although her stage name is Tomochika.
And yes, she is indeed a genius. :lol:
THANKYOU @_@
Been trying to figure out her name for the longest time lol
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Oricon Weekly Chart update: Morning Musume are 28th this week with 5,102 copies sold. Total is now 33,184 sold.
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damn that's bad ..... >_<"" I felt so guilty :lol: :lol: I STILL didn't buy the CD (the only MM single I didn't buy)
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Owch that's bad :( I also didn't buy this one (kinda low on money this month :p )
so I guess it's quite impossible for it to reach 50k sales, huh? darn... ah well... I still like it nonetheless :)
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Just remember DEF.DIVA getting to number 1 with about 12.000 copies sold.
I guess some times of the year are not to good for sales...
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DEF.DIVA sold 26,353 in the first week and got number 1. Not as low as 12K but lower than the first week of Mikan.
Btw, TOKIO got number 1 this week with 'only' 46,283 sold. The same amount would've reached to number 5 only last week. It really depends on how strong the competition is in a certain what ranking a single will get.
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my definition of BAD:
2 week sales is even lower than previous lowest 1st week sales single (which is sexy boy, 36,531)
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Just remember DEF.DIVA getting to number 1 with about 12.000 copies sold.
I guess some times of the year are not to good for sales...
Yeah, but isn't this usually an ok time of year for sales? Doesn't seem to be too bad for Berryz, who just had their highest first week sales ever (and even beat Momusu in sales for the first time).
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OMG is the first single who is not top 5 in 10 years!!! amazing this didn´t happened before because you know the speech that pop groups can´t live too long... anyway, the single was good (for me at least it was) but indeed is too bad that they sell that few. I really don´t care much about the charts, i enjoy music and that´s it but since is MM so def everyone expect a top seller ^^U
Tsunku need to focus more in the music (for everyone and not only the fans)... and btw please graduate (or disband) SharanQ